Yeah, uh, "peaceful protests" are what the political machine wants. Protests can be ignored. They're not going to give a fuck until you start burning cop cars. So no shit people are tired of protesting. I bet they're finally starting to understand the myth of peaceful protests.
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And with more serious protests, the media just turns it around to the point that half of America thinks St Louis burned to the ground. It's so exhausting.
It looks like revolution is the only way but I'm so fucking tired. I'm getting old too.
The 2016 to 2021 leftist protest movements were effective not because they worked on Trump, but because they worked on Democratic law makers to show they had support for visibly resisting Trumps policies. As a result of resistance from the minority/ opposition party, along with internal incompetencies, Trump got basically almost nothing in that first term.
Since then the opposition party has shown that they did not value or prioritize litterally anything the protest movements were focusing on, instead prioritizing corporate donor priorities and a diet Republican approach to change. The core of the Democratic party were abandoned by Democrats in the period of 2020 to 2024.
Three Supreme Court justices. Massive tax cuts for the rich and corporations. I'd say he got plenty done, though luckily not everything for the reasons you point out (and others). Next four years are going to be rough.
This would be a compelling argument if the Biden administration hadn't been the most economically progressive since LBJ.
Oh God that was a good laugh. Do another joke!
Yup, and this is why Democrats lose. They are allergic to actually supporting the party's real accomplishments and prefer to throw stones and circle the firing squad. Democrats need to learn how to play the game. There is too much of this fart sniffing on the left these days.
This is the long game now. Pace yourself. Protect yourself. Even something as small as looking the other way in the right moment is resistance.
Hell yeah. If you see someone steal something, no you didn't.
Fuck you Bozos.
But participants noted that Mr. Trump had not appeared to be swayed by protests, petitions, hashtag campaigns or other tools of mass dissent.
No shit. The law doesn't even sway the guy. What's he going to care about protests and petitions for?
This reminds me of a video I recently watched about how to resist the Trump presidency. Since, he doesn't seem to be swayed by acts of protest like this.
The protests this month also drew out younger people who were not around for past marches. Kira Miller, a 19-year-old student at the University of Richmond who attended a protest in Washington, said she believed that failures in the education system cause young voters to be uninformed, and therefore apolitical or apathetic; marches can help bridge that gap. “There is power in the visual impact of protests,” she said, “and in the attention that they bring to issues.”
She's got a point.
they weren't uninformed. they knew exactly what they were voting for.
they were indoctrinated due to a lack of education that would otherwise protect them against manipulation.
Maga is a cult, they're basically unreachable and we know that. Apathy and despair is the real enemy here. If "Didn't Vote" was a candidate, they would have won. By a landslide.
I agree.
Actually, I'd argue that due to isolation from mainstream news sources, quite a lot of them are uninformed. Was their specific tiktok account putting the info into their feeds? If not, you can get uninformed.
tiktok is not a news source. tiktok is propaganda. propaganda is meant to program a response from people.
the education system failed to prepare these people for a toxic inhospitable world where their very identity is being attacked on the daily.
also, these people failed to prepare themselves once they became adults because they couldn't identify the risks to themselves. they lack the skills to identify where their opinions end and the mobs values begin because of a lifetime of indoctrination through tools like Facebook and Tiktok.
they were not uninformed. they made a conscious decision to vote the way they chose. they can certainly change their perspective and their values, but they have damaged their integrity and irreparably broken the trust given to Americans around the world.
just because you don't understand why you did a thing doesn't absolve you from being guilty. if someone is uninformed they made choices based on falsified information. there are numerous cases that specifically told the world how big of a corrupt criminal Trump is. Too many sources to ignore it, this is why they chose of their own free will and were not "uninformed".
Whether someone is informed or not is something that can be objectively analyzed. It had nothing to do with responsibility or guilt. Either they know or they don't, it is an entirely separate topic whose fault that is.
court: so you then hit the victim seventeen times in the head with a hammer. what do you have to say for yourself.
defendant: I didn't know that hitting a person that many times would kill them. I saw it happen on Looney Tunes hundreds of times and thought they would be fine.
so by your own admission the defendant should be let go because they can't be held responsible or guilty because they were uneducated and/or misinformed?
No, I'm saying that discussion of innocence and guilt is a pointless distraction from the important parts of the conversation. It's irrelevant, it doesn't matter. There is nothing illegal about listening to gop bullshit, so it's a pointless red herring to focus so heavily on it.
What do you perceive the benefit of focusing on guilt to be? What's the point?
why are you so focused on the guilt aspect?
nobody is getting charged here. Their first amendment right is still virginal. Nobody is going to take your guns, it's ok. we're discussing our opinions on the internet like good little boys, girls, tboys, tgirls, nonboys, nongirls, right? (apologies if I left anyone out)
the point remains that those people acted of their own free will. they failed their responsibility to identify a major threat to the continued stability of our nation and instead let a megalomaniac gain power over our highest seat if power, AGAIN.
these people did what they thought was best based on propaganda. their primary source of information comes from a documented and well known worldwide propaganda machine.
they have had hundreds if not thousands of chances to identify that they are being manipulated but refuse to see reason.
you're going to lose it on the next part.
they are guilty of being willfully ignorant and refusing to learn. they will never go to jail for it, they will never have their rights taken away for it. but, they will be judged by society. they will be seen as, less than American.
Because real Americans stand up against bullies. Real Americans stop at nothing to block fascist dictators from taking over their nation. Real Americans vote.
I swear somebody said something about the "language of the unheard."
"IKEA furniture purchases are the language of the unheard"?
"Politely worded letters are the language of the unheard"?
"Petitions are the language of the unheard"?
Ah, it'll come to me.
Look, if I put a bunch of effort into getting someone away from a toxic partner, and then they go right back to that partner, I'm not gonna waste my energy doing it all over again. At this point whatever happens to us is entirely our fault.
article is paywalled with no workaround as far as know
but as someone involved in grassroots since Obama's first term definitely say the fatigue is real and the march of progress has ground to a silent eerie lurching halt
'fatigue' is definitely at least partly why we are where we are.
donvict's been 'involved' one way or another since then, too. and we've had to try to vote him into a sand trap the last three cycles.
At least he's never far from a sand trap, heyoo.
I am partial to archive.is for these types of articles: link.
I see that sometimes but i didn't know how to do it. Can you teach me, please?