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I mean, this question is not just about normal criminals.

Think like very bad crimes. Like serial killers, rapists, child rapists, terrorists, corrupt officials, terrible leaders, cruel dictators, generals that ignore laws of war, or like people has bad as Hitler. Which of these people do you think deserve a respectful burial, if any.

Is there a level of evilness that you think should not be allowed to have a proper buriel or have their corpses mutilated. Or should everyone deserve a respectful burial regardless of crimes.

I personally don't even know how to answer this question myself. Like the funeral isn't even for the dead. Its for the living. So to me, the question seems like, should the relatives of a bad person be allowed to see the corpse treated respectfully. I personally don't have an answer to this question.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

There was a serial paedophile killer in the UK who killed (after doing other things) someone I know's daughter. When he died, he was cremated and dumped in the ocean in an undisclosed location from a boat. This was only released after the fact.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

burial and cremation, as practices, should be be dispensed with altogether.

i want my eventual corpse to be donated to a green burial.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is desecrating their corpse going to deter them from further bad actions in the future? No? Then let's not.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

Decency is a decision you make about who you are. It's not about them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You can only be evil when you are alive. In death we are all rotting meat, neither good or evil.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Not entirely true, when memorials are built to an evil person which perpetuates their evil, that evil survives the mortal coil.

It's why after taking DNA samples, Osama Bin Laden was thrown in the ocean, and Hitlers bunker was built over and his body disposed of by the KGB. Evil lives on.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

This is a question that is at least older than feudalism - the Greek tragedy Antigone deals with this question. And the answer, like always, is that desecrating a corpse is bad and dangerous and don't do it, family is gonna be pissed and rightly so.

Even if it's funny as shit that there were heads on sticks on top of Parliament for a while.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

They should get respectful burials as they will become gender-neutral bathrooms for eternity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Odd thing to fixate on, but yes. We ought to spend our energy on the terrible people still alive. Who cares what they do to the demon husks once they can’t hurt anyone anymore? Bury it with flowers and fireworks for all I care. Let’s focus on the suffering of the living.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh I have random throughts all the time. I read an article about the US sending SEALs to kill a designated terrorist leader and they gave him a burial according to his culture, so I just though that was very interesting. Like I expected military people to just burn or mutilate the body.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

the story to fixate upon there is how the cia located bin laden in the first place -- by having agents pose as international aid workers dispensing the polio vaccine in pakistan.

this one act has led to a distrust in aid workers in that country and the flourishing of polio. countless innocent lives ruined, but i'm sure uncle sam considers those as adequate compensation against killing one man who had sequestered hinself away with his goats and his porn.

we should care less about how that one man was buried then and more about how the polio-ridden corpses of children are treated today.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Well believe it or not most people in the military are human beings, not bloodthirsty monsters that burn and mutilate bodies. Osama's burial was done the way it was for pretty good reasons. Imagine the uproar and additional violence that would have happened if it came out that his body was treated like you say. It would have cost even more lives.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I, for one, am kind of relieved that military personnel have respect for their adversaries.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, because compassion is what makes us better then them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

pedantry is what makes some better than others :p

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