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Conveniences, automation, safety plans, etc. Everyone loves winging it and having piles of chores, but then they complain about life being hard, but then they don't change anything

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

I don't know what you're referring to. Most people love conveniences and automation. There are extremely few cases i can think of where people choose the hard way instead of the easy way when the results are the same.

Name some specific examples of what you're talking about

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I'd love the easiest possible life

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a kid in a Catholic family I remember my dad saying God intended man to live "by the sweat of his brow". No idea if it's a bible quote or what, I can just hear him saying it. But I think there's a mentality that life wasn't meant to be fun or easy, and therefore thinking it should be is a wrong thought. Somehow this doesn't make inheriting wealth and living in abject luxury evil or wrong, as long as you still have a work ethic. Or something, I dunno.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

They're fucking stupid as hell. Also there's people that just hate change even if it's in their favor. The rest are pretending to be stupid because they are benifited by the status quo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I like cooking, I like gardening. Husband likes washing the cars. Sure I like convenience - live about a mile from work so can easily get there without a car, have a Roomba, hire for biweekly cleaning so we can have weekends. But some sorts of activities you think of as inconveniences may be stuff other people enjoy doing.

Is your planning theoretical at this point? Your responses sound like you haven't actually implemented these plans.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? Do you think convenience is free?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Probably because in most cases, doing so requires a tradeoff of some sort. Hardware, design and planning, upkeep, data privacy and reliance on external factors/services etc.

So when it doesn't fit together and people don't even have any real source of help (not to mention enshittification) it should be no wonder that the existing way (or "live with it") is the only real option.

Also there is also the angle of some "easier" options that sound nice on paper but end up creating their own problems (or are just too expensive to be viable).

[–] [email protected] 78 points 3 days ago (7 children)

A ton of automation and 'convenience' being sold is terribly thought out or makes life more complex than not having it.

Smart bulbs are way more work to set up than they are worth for me, a light switch works fine. Cruise control is nice, but lane assist drives me nuts with all the false positives. Generally the overwhelming number of chores comes from just having too many things in the first place.

Fewer, simpler operating things are more enjoyable for me than a lot of complex automated things that don't do what I want them to do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I think automation in general has been in an awkward stage for a while, maybe analogous to adolescence or puberty. At some point our immediate world will become truly automated, able to sense what we need or want and provide it with very minimal setup and instruction, like a cocoon of personal convenience. Right now it's more like a 19th century vision of a house of the future with pulleys and wires everywhere - we haven't gotten rid of the pulleys and wires, we've just moved them into apps.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone is actually against having an easier life, but that it's a problem of not being able to see the forest for the trees.

Making the plan in the first place is difficult for a lot of people. Following the plan can be orders of magnitude more difficult, particularly if someone is entrenched in a routine.

My view is that the perceived difficulty of changing your life is greater than the perceived simpleness of the current process.

Maybe there is some brilliant way to automate my most tedious chores. But then I've got to spend cognitive power directed at a task I find tedious. It might be easier to do things the way they've always been done rather than to think and try out new processes which don't always work.

Life is pretty hard though, and you can't change everything. I don't know if that means you shouldn't try, but I understand someone's desire to keep their head down

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The one thing that every human has in common is their ability to complain about anything, an alien race could come and solve every single problem on earth, with every single need want or desire fulfilled and we'd still complain.

We thrive on complaining, we need to complain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I'd agree with you but your post is way too long! Uuuuugh! I almost burned a whole calorie writing this reply!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Smooth, predictable operation requires forethought, planning, and willingness to stick to a process. It's not nearly as fun as living in the moment and improvising.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's fun having peace of mind though. It's fun being able to binge movies without suddenly realizing you forgot something important. It's fun being able to nap without waking up in a cold sweat because you forgot to take out trash for the tenth week in a row. It's fun being able to forget the time and get immersed in hobbies.

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