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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Man, I wonder if those Russian propaganda guys ever wish they had more non-bullshit to spew. Like, they have to keep up appearances, but it's usually easy to tell which statements are for the public, and which ones they might actually mean (like the threat to do proxy wars of their own), so it's just a lot of wasted words.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Can someone explain to me why it's ridiculous to take them seriously? Genuine question.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

When your enemy has strategic nukes, the extreme ways to respond are:

A, not taking the nuclear threat seriously.

B, give up.

Saying we shouldn't arm Ukraine because of nukes is close to option B.

Nukes may go off, but if arming Ukraine is the trigger, than we were likely to witness nuclear war because we wouldn't accept option B, rather than any weapon system giving Ukraine an advantage. If that is the case, nuclear war has most likely already been decided.

The real game is to make those in Russia believe that backing down works towards their goals. If they hope in 20 years the US will fall apart, they may wait, or maybe someone will kill Putin and take over Russia, being rewarded by less sanctions.

Long story short, nuking Ukraine don't benifit Russia more than it will hurt it.

I am not an expert

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Add a soyjak with an ushanka in the bottom frame next to the chud for extra accuracy

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 week ago (11 children)

The tankies aren't going to like this meme.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If they browse NCD they'll be mad a lot. People on here have the normal take on whether the North Koreans are secret Wakanda good guys, and it comes up constantly.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Fox has been pumping up the Russophobia since Putin started saber-rattling, most likely to justify Trump’s incoming “peace negotiations” that will result in sacrificing Ukrainian territory.

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

In my experience people who are against more Ukraine aid think that the dollar amount we send is actual cash that can be spent in other places, rather than pallets of munitions that don't keep forever anyway.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

Even for new weapons and ammo it is usually just spending on the local weapons manufacturers so basically just supporting your own economy.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

And a part of that is old stuff that would be decommissioned so the cash is to make the new products. Or so I have understood it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

And we're also saving a bunch on disposal costs for the old stuff.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago (3 children)

nah that's right. we've sent ukraine a shit ton of basically decommissioned shit. and even then we've been weirdly stingy, and unresponsive to their non military aid requests (their biggest ask is glass)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Probably on account of every window in every city being broken by shockwaves from bombardments

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