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They're called leaves for a reason. (mander.xyz)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

until it snows, then it becomes a slip-n-slide for all.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I don't view this as a "pick up the leaves or not" false choice. I leave the leaves in some areas and mow over/pick them up in others. They're literally free mulch and compost

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And now I'm even more glad that where I live they leave the leaves under the tree. Didn't know that bumblebees live under that leaves left under the tree. Now I wanna leave a commest about the cute bumblebees that live under the leaves that someone left under the tree.

P.S. sorry, couldn't hold myself, sorry:)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Just remember that month suggestions online are for certain geographic areas. You might need to move them earlier or later. (The best rules I have seen is when nights are above 50 F in North America)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

In other words, leave nature alone and let it do the thing it designed itself to do

[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I've decided to leave the leaves on my yard and I swear my neighbors are mowing and leaf blowing twice as much just to spite me.

IDGAF. I'd rather have fireflies and bumblebees than human neighbors

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

And then they complain that their fruit garden isn't working.

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[+] [email protected] -34 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Colony collapse was due to fungicides being sprayed in the day. -Bees don't need extra pollen (they have plenty of food to spare which is why we have honey as a product), and they don't need people's lawns (pick the leaves up before winter).

Leaving leaves is just being an asshole neighbor making safe paths for vermin to get into houses, and reduce the value of neighboring properties.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Leaving leaves also kills the grass under them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It most certainly does not. Source: have a tree, a lawn, and no interest in spending time raking leaves.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

It really depends on how many leaves we're talking; a thin, evenly distributed layer? Yeah that's just mulch and is great. A thicker layer that turns slimy and dense? That grass is a goner. Area and species of leaves probably pays a big part I imagine. I have an area near a fence where the leaves piled up and were left a year and now there's no grass there, even a couple years later (there's a super embedded layer of decomposing leaves that's blocking everything else out even after removing the bulk of the leaves)

Of course, there's never room for nuance in these conversations.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Lmfao

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Since HOAs were mentioned, I assume the previous comment was about the US (unless there are countries in the Old World where they are as prevalent, but I know of none). Domestic honey bees aren't native to the US, and many native bees are endangered for many different reasons. In the rest of the world as well, honey bees aren't the only bees, or the only pollinating insects, and each pollinator has their plants of predilections, some species of plants depend entirely on some species of insect, so insect biodiversity is very important. Protecting native bees in the Americas has particular stakes, because they're the most adept at pollinating the native plants which are the cornerstones of several ecosystems.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please cite your sources.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does his ass count as a source?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago

You're not OP

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I think that counts as a secondary/#2 source?

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Too bad HOAs are far more concerned with making sure everything looks plain and perfect to the 70 year old humans walking on the street rather than giving any craps about wildlife.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Don't worry, they're also hostile to humans under the age of 70

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (9 children)

You think anybody is walking on the street in the US?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, quite a few

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

America build the suburbs as a big fake playground where you can walk your dog.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm not American but my understanding is that many of those "suburban" residential blocks have sidewalks and you can walk around withing the confinement of your block. However blocks are isolated from each other and you need a car to go somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hah, I forgot that there are actually lots of suburban places that have no sidewalks. I was more talking about how no one walks and everyone drives, but it seems everyone interpreted that to mean specifically walking in the driving lanes.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Absolutely. There’s a lot in my neighborhood… And it’s annoying when there’s a perfectly good sidewalk right there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Plenty of them do. And I hate it. They need to be on the sidewalk, not the street.

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