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[–] [email protected] 113 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Another way to view this is that the poor are voting republican now. Trump won those making less than $100,000 handedly while Harris won those making above. Probably because he's offering them a solution to there problems, deport the immigrants and bring manufacturing back. His plan is dumb and won't work but at least he's putting something forward unlike Harris who says everything will stay the same.

The democrats are slowly becoming the party of the out of touch elite, and memes like this don't help. The democrats need to be putting forward solutions to those problems, and trump has shown it doesn't matter if they're viable or will actually help. If these "dumb poor people are rubes who will fall for anything" give them something to fall for. Say your going to tax the billionaires at 50% and use that money to pay for Healthcare and child care, don't cozy up to them so you can raise another billion dollars to lose another election .

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (7 children)

The Democrats must be doing something right, if their states have better everything.

Maybe if the Republicans would listen to us, we could all have the best schools and hospitals.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

So according to you it's worse to acknowledge we can't go back in time than to lie to people and promise that which we (in the 3rd party pov sense, meaning NYC republicans) actively subvert every day? One would have to be exceptionally stupid and stubbornly uninformed to believe this is reasonable.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Say your going to tax the billionaires at 50% and use that money to pay for Healthcare and child care, don't cozy up to them so you can raise another billion dollars to lose another election .

That was basically Harris' tax plan.

What Would Kamala Harris's Tax Plans Mean For You? | Kiplinger - https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/kamala-harriss-tax-plans-2024

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't matter what your platform is if it's not communicated effectively to the median voter

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (16 children)

How do you communicate effectively to someone with their fingers in their ears screaming nananananananana? Please advise, oh political oracle.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You go on Joe Rogan for one. Kamala ran the last presidential campaign that will ever rely so heavily on the legacy media apparatus. This whole cycle proved that they are only broadcasting to themselves and real people are elsewhere on podcasts, twitter and YT.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

With all the fucking TV ads and mailers the campaign spent billions on. If the average voters is just covering there ears then why spend so much on advertising or why even campaign at all? Yeah some people are like that but they're deep in the maga cult, there's still a large amount of people open to both sides if the messaging is right that decided this election. Harris' messaging didn't work though.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Massachusetts is also 4th in the country for states with the most people leaving to live elsewhere.

No doubt due to cost of living because Massachusetts is ridiculously expensive. The friends I have there are either leaving or totally resigned to not owning a house or ever retiring. Comparing a historically important coastal population center to a historically poor and strategically insignificant flyover state doesn't prove much.

The states with highest domestic emigration (e.g. people voting with their feet to leave) are overwhelmingly left leaning. (Except for Louisiana and Ohio)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

As an Ohioan that tracks. We’d long been the poor person’s progressive state but yeah I’m ditching to go somewhere I’m safe, even though it sucks to leave somewhere affordable

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

strategically insignificant flyover state

Cushing, OK has a bone to pick with this.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Assuming that is a missile silo or something in which case I stand corrected on that front!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Major petroleum marketplace. The commodity trading floor is in a big city somewhere else. But a lot of the oil actually changes hands in our around Cushing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Gotcha. FWIW I have no bone to pick with Oklahoma at all. If anything the fact that people criticize it for being a backwater probably means that it's awesome.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So progressive places make a place so desirable to live in that people are willing to compete with each other for the experience.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

"Why are blue states always so expensive?!". It's supply and demand. High demand to live someplace makes it expensive.

My million dollar house is worth as much as it is because of its located near high paying jobs, good school, and good neighbors. It's expensive to live where I live because lots of people want to live here.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's higher demand to live in Florida and Texas. Look at the domestic immigration numbers. People are leaving CA, NY, IL and MA in droves.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Wasn't Oklahoma supposed to be given back to the native tribes? Like more than 50% of it?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

It was. And in fact the Supreme Court ruled in McGirt v. Oklahoma that the reservations still exist. One consequence is that Google Maps now shades the entire eastern half of the state in dark shading showing the borders between the Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw, and so forth.

The tribal governments are taking an increasing role in providing public services to all of the citizens within their borders, as the civil state government descends deeper into libertarianism.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Oklahoma was built on genocide. Is it any wonder those that govern it are garbage people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Unlike Massachusetts which was totally uninhabited when people settled there.

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