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    Sayori meme representing Linux users. Sayori is disgusted by text reading "receiving pre-installed bloatware" and instead approves "accumulating bloatware over time". Bloatware refers to unused packages.

    Edit: You are so kind to give me advice on how to remove bloatware, but I don't need it :D

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    this is y i reinstall my gentoo box weekly by the time im done compiling all the packeges i need on my celeron chip and got all the bloatware back its time to reinstall

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

    NixOS: Always installing exactly the same bloatware.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    This thread is hilarious. Do what you want, but to rm -rf (assume /) to get rid of unwanted packages is the most Windows thing.

    No matter your package manager, I am sure there is a way to get a list of explicitly installed packages and then going through it and uninstalling with the package manager automatically removing it’s dependencies seems like a way faster method.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

    this is why i moved from Arch to NixOS. now i know what system packages are installed and can even leave comments in the config to remind myself what the heck cyme does, for instance

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    This is a certified hood Klassiker. I keep all my important files on external disks, so I can reinstall easily. I tried other distros that "fix" this issue, but I'll never leave my true love Arch again (dont tell my wife, I don't want to sleep on the couch again).

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Separate / from /home into separate partitions. When you reinstall, set to overwrite /, but leave /home intact or set it to be /home for the new install without formatting. It will reinstall your distro but keep your data.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    The main reason I don't do this is that I don't want to keep any executables / potentially malicious, or files prone to exploitation around. So I like to fully format my main SSD. Yeah, it's a bit paranoid, but I still prefer it. Thanks for the tip, tho. I think it's helpful for alot of people.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

    You do you, of course. But, I think that combining the approach of immutable distros to either case would be a great way to add some security. Even if nothing is ever 100% safe, this would be very robust. Or, even without an immutable distro you can do Qubes or just any sandboxing (e.g. bubblewrap) to open documents and files.

    In any case, being paranoid certainly is an elegant sport. Perhaps even more than golfing (:

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Too late, she saw distro on your collar.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

    That doesn't stop you from accumulating flatpaks and such

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    I actually use NixOS, but my configuration also accumulates packages I will no longer use. Even worse, these packages will be reinstalled wherever I use that config!

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

    Install comma, and run commands without installing

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

    Use nix run/nix shell and only add to the config when you've used that a lot for the same command.

    Then clean up the config....someday.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

    You can try deleting old profiles and then garbage-collect the installation, only the last generation will remain

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

    You can try deleting old profiles and then garbage-collect the installation, only the last generation will remain and you'd get your space back.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

    You can get rid of them very easily 😁 You could also have a base config and an extended config

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

    NixOS user here. This doesn't come out of the box, but I append a comma before the command I want to run without installing, I can run the command without installing.

    Yes it's technically downloaded (if not cached there already) in the nix store, but this is (optionally automatically) cleaned up regularly, for store items that doesn't have a generation (profile, think version of your configuration) that depends on it.

    Out the box, you can run a command that opens a shell up with the packages you specify, but comma uses a database to know the executeable names for packages (you get to pick if multiple matches), similar to the command not found function in other distros.

    Sorry for hijacking your comment, just wanted to say something cool about a cool distro, which isn't suitable for everyone, but I hope that can improve in the future because nixos is niceos

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    I am fine with installing apps I use or want to try. I'm also okay with forgetting them and wasting the space honestly. All of that probably would take me ten years of "bloat" to match windows out of the box so yeah that's not bloat, that's just making software decisions. This post is really criticizing people for installing software? Wtf

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Yes, you should not install packages and this incident will be reported.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago
    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

    as usual, nix fixed this (kinda)

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    if i package i want to install has more than five dependencies, i don't install it; who can keep track of all that :3

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    That's what package managers are for πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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