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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

George W. Bush made a joke about being a dictator, but never tried to actually be one. Trump has been trying to be a dictator from the moment he was born...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don't see him lasting his full term. Dude's old, is incredibly unhealthy, and has enough power-mad people around him that the first sign of weakness will probably be enough for medical intervention and Vance becoming president. Becoming president AGAIN at his age is possibly the dumbest thing he can do for his health.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

This is something I don't think they even acknowledge or think about. Some of their shit in comparing him to Hitler (and they do that in a positive manner) is when they claim that some of the shit that is happening to him is like him being imprisoned after the Beer Hall Putsch (referring to Jan 6th). This is stupid. Hitler was barely in his early 30s at the time and he was actually at the START of his political career. Trump was never imprisoned and when he did his shit he already had very real political power that Hitler never had in 1923.

Trump the oldest presidential nominee ever and I hope that he will stay the oldest. We don't need that kind of geriatic shit in any political office anywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Long as his "forever" ends at or before 2027

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Let me get this right. So, you know exactly who this man is and what he stands for. Yet, you elect him anyway. You know he's been "joking" about this before. Yet, you elect him anyway. He's a convicted felon. Yet, you elect him anyway.

I've lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans. You went into this with eyes wide open. You deserve what's coming.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I voted for Kamala, and got a handful of others to as well, don't include me with the rest of them. I don't deserve this.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Same. I voted on the first day of early voting, and convinced my nephew and his two best friends to cast their first (and likely last) votes. My niece is 15; I'm sure she'll be glad to hear she "deserves" what's coming.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, already in the first week. Expect to hear this joke periodically over the course of his term, each time getting slightly more seriously stated. By the third year, everyone will have heard it so much it'll be accepted as a perfectly reasonable idea. And the media will help that along in how they report on it. This is the tried and true playbook and it will work, not only for this plan but for their other plans.

Take for example the planned mass deportations. They'll start out with finding some people who have committed crimes (or they claim have), deport them and no one will object to that, it's already how it's done. As they move on to those whose crimes are not very consequential, like traffic tickets or whatever, if libs say anything against it, they'll pounce on it and amplify stories how the libs are overreacting and want criminals to be left free and have open borders. Harping on any criticism in cases that are technically justified is key to getting the public used to pooh-poohing any dissent as they start escalating and going after the law-abiding (other than being here illegally ofc) immigrants, families with mixed status members, DACA/Dreamers, parents of children born here and thus citizens and deporting the children with them, etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ha such fun joke

Edit: also just boys being boys

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He won't stay in power. His appointment of incompetent sycophants will dismantle 250 years of American prosperity (maliciously or negligently, it doesn't matter) and it will be sold for parts to billionaires and foreign states.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

will dismantle 250 years of American prosperity

cough 1961 to 2008

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah; he’ll stay in power long enough for that.

But he’s 78 years old. When he’s supposed to step down in 2029, he’ll be almost 83.

The average life expectancy of men in the US is currently 73.

Based on historical data for people Trump’s age and health in the US, he’s likely to die of natural causes before he’s 86.

So the longest he could likely hang on for is one more term than he’s supposed to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I bet he wants nepotism to for succession, but that's not what his benifactors want, hence JD Vance

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah, a "joke".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He’ll do what Putin did. Have Vance run as President, and run as his Vice-President. He’ll maintain control like Dick Cheney with Bush.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Trump's malignant narcissism won't let him be subordinate to someone else. So that idea is out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That’s explicitly not allowed by the constitution. 12th amendment

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They. Do. Not. Care.

You still don't get this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The point is if they do not care, they wouldn't even bother to pretend. He'd just stay in office or run again.

The dance of running as VP doesn't make any sense as either they don't care and it's not necessary, or they do care and that's not a loophole that exists.

Besides, IIRC Kanye and Trump had a falling out over a suggestion that Trump would take a backseat to Kanye in a campaign. Trump won't settle for even the appearance of 'second place'.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Yes, but the 28th Amendment written on this McDonald's napkin says he can totally do this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

If I were him, I'd be more concerned with making it through this one.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Remember, the Constitution is just a really old piece of paper if the people entrusted to enforce it choose to ignore it.

There is a non-zero chance that Trump could move to suspend the Constitution entirely, backed by a complicit Cabinet, Congress, Supreme Court and several state governments. And at that point, we would literally have to hope and pray that the rank-and-file military is on the side of the people, which is far, far from guaranteed. Because if they're not, you can claim your Constitutional rights all you want, but you'll be doing it with the other prisoners inside of whatever re-education camp you're assigned to.

Heck, there's a non-zero chance that the American voter just gives off a collective "meh" and just apathetically lets Trump seize total power. We just saw a few million people do just that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Jk, jk...unless...

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