[+] [email protected] -13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You had 20 years to become a legal citizen. After that period of time, getting deported is on you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Alejandra petitioned to become a citizen in 2001, but was rejected because she was accused of making a false statement at the border when she sought asylum in 1998

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The system is unfortunate in that you can't apply for legal status while you're in the country illegally. Like you get married, you then have to leave the country and apply for a spouse visa from a consulate. Even if you leave, if you've been in the country out of status for over a year, you're barred from getting a visa for 10 years(even as a spouse or parent). She likely had no legal path to stay with her family. It's fucked.

Biden tried to do something about that and failed. https://www.npr.org/2024/11/08/g-s1-33370/judge-biden-program-immigrant-spouses-deportation

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get that though. If a country endorses that, you're inviting more people to break the law, get in the country, then apply for citizenship.

Also, what happened to green cards? A non-legal citizen marries a legal one, and eventually they get citizenship. Is that not a thing anymore?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You need an immigrant visa to start getting a green card. Technically a green card is a visa, really. It's a whole change of status thing that is quite Byzantine.

And in general, I do not see the punitive value of breaking up families. It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because you're sending a message that it's ok to break the law as long as you eventually are in compliance with the law. This is a complicated situation, especially when you have a wife/husband and children involved. I won't pretend to have all the answers. Obviously no one is happy when a family of many years is separated, but this person knew what they were doing was wrong (from a legal perspective), and did it anyway. Just like breaking any other law, there are consequences for our actions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In this case we're creating all the social ills and costs that broken families entails, being monsters, and punishing frankly a minority of those that lack status. All for a bad policy. I mean, you yourself thought there was a pathway when we started this conversation because obviously that's the most humane and sensible thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

August 3, 2018

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In this thread... People who think this is a current article, and aren't asking why Biden is splitting up families.

Is this really something you'd approve of Biden doing?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You think Biden was president in 2018? I bet you also wonder why Obama didn't do more about 9/11. See, you people having a vote is why we can't have a good country.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I see you failed critical reading.

They think this was done under Biden.

Their objection is lacking.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The article is not current, but now it's not the first time people voted for Trump. 2018 wasn't Biden's term.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Oh I get that. That's not my point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh no...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

... anyway

[+] [email protected] -10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This couldn't have been Trump, he doesn't take office until January. Why is the media pretending to care about these stories now?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago

This article is from 2018, halfway through Trump's first term in office.

[+] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Someone who separated or retired from the Marine Corps. If you're not putting the uniform on at least once a month anymore then you're not a Marine anymore. You are a Former Marine and you have an entire community. Yelling at civilians for not getting your inside motivational slogan is peak boot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Someone that was in the marines but is not currently.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

A retired one? I mean I get what you're saying but I'm not referring to some 50 year old Trumper fatass as a marine just cause he used to do it

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The post title and 3 top level comments all day 2018. But some people still struggling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

This is the real reason biden lost. Even the people who did read the 2018 are somehow thinking biden was president then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was edited 2 hours after it got posted so maybe title got changed after the comments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Oh that's fair. I thought titles couldn't be edited

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago

Temo didn't figure his vote for President Donald Trump would affect them personally.

Boo fucking hoo.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think as long as the article date is in the title for old news, like this post, the relevant posts are fine.

Having historical references are pretty helpful, and hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

i'm not sure i would call this hilarious.

Leopards Ate My Face

August 3, 2018