I'm shocked at all the election denialism I'm seeing. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2024
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It’s a shame people are falling for that trap. Especially after all the shit we all had to hear about it for the past 4 years.
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Yeah? Are more than 71 million people protesting? If so, where the fuck were you on Tuesday? And if not, well, I understand you don't like the election result but this isn't going to achieve anything.
"No but see I withheld my vote for Kamala because I don't feel she earned it"
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I get the feeling we need to be doing the work the Democrats refused to do: creating a political mandate. Protesting is part of creating that mandate, but one thing I would like to see is the inverse of the "ground game" l; where instead of going door to door to convince people of a solution, you get them involved in the decision process.
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This is a good lesson to those who are shocked by the win but didn't vote.
"Huh. I threw away my vote and now they're talking about implementing Project 2025 during Trump's revenge administration! Weird..."
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While I fully support these protests, they need to be planning for the responding violence from authorities. It's coming the day Trump takes office.
People protesting in Seattle or NYC are, rest assured, taking state sanctioned violence into account. SPD/NYPD are a great way to train a culture in how to mitigate absolute bastards.
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Yes! Finally!
This was one of the main reasons why I was looking forward to Harris winning ... so that everyone in the world could just stop talking about dumb American politics for a while
Now it looks like it's all we'll ever talk about at the expense of talking about every other important thing in the world ... such as our long term survival as a species on this planet.
Americans would rather bully the entire world than participate in it apparently. We're stuck with this now. The Republican party is back from the dead.
Sadly, a few protests now is nothing in comparison if Harris would have won. The Republican party already had preemptive lawsuits to challenge the election results before election day and the results would have been contended for months. There was a high likelihood of a repeat of Jan. 6th 2021 on Jan. 6th 2025 from right wing milita groups.
Long-term fate was sealed with this election.
Short-term profit year over year for the shareholders always wins.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species. He's likely to push anti-pollution deregulation, prioritize fossil fuels, refuse to uphold international agreements on climate change policy, etc. That's on top of the damage he will do to international trade, charitable efforts, world health, immigration, and war. He is far from the only problem in all of those areas, but unfortunately he's likely to be involved with just about all of it, and improve none of it. As an American, I'm so so sorry.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species.
You actually missed the biggest thing of all. Trump's new world disorder is going to create an explosion of nuclear proliferation. In the new environment, countries can no longer rely on the US nuclear umbrella as they have for the past 70 years. Every country will rightly want to have their own nuclear weapons now. And the shear amount of new countries that are going to have their own nuclear weapons is going to guarantee a disaster sooner or later.
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"Drill baby drill, frack baby frack".
Trumps literal words at a rally leading up to the election. And people cheered.
This should tell you all you need to know. If you recycle, if you carpool, if you use public transportation. If you have a compost pile. If you refuse to buy plastic water bottles, and styrofoam plates. If you do everything you can to reduse, reuse, and recycle, fuck you. Your efforts are in vein. All of it is being undone on a global industrial scale. Purposefully. With tax breaks for the oil tycoons who pollute the most.
This is what we're in for.
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As the POTUS, Trump gets to set the bar on the world stage for international cooperation in many parts of life.
Other leaders, world-wide, will follow his lead, either because they can finally get away with it, or in reaction to how he treats their nation.
We saw this to a small degree with Trump 1.0 when nobody expected him to win. Now the entire world has had 8 years to figure out what they are going to do.
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Wonderful timing! Did you ever consider doing this a week or two ago?
If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters. Now we have people reacting to damage already done when the next chance to fix it is two years away.
If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters.
The exact same thing happened in 2016. Huge rallies a few days after Clinton lost. If those same street rallies had come a few days BEFORE the election, she probably would have won.
Of course, there is the distinct possibility that the rallies were happening before the election. The billionaire owned media just didn't choose to show it until now.
I was thinking that too. It's definitely possible.
It would have been worse. Fox News would paint them as anarchists and encourage violence. Nothing would change on the right
Yeah, it would have just been feeding their infinitely expandable persecution fetish. The same goes for the legal cases against Trump. It was the right thing to do, but it just meant that Trump supporters dug in their heels even more.
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