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Following Donald Trump’s recent election victory, Google searches for “4B,” a South Korean feminist movement advocating a “no sex, no dating, no marriage, no children” stance, surged in the U.S.

The 4B movement, popular among young women on social media, promotes individual resistance against conservative politics and the erosion of reproductive rights.

The trend reflects a broader ideological divide between young men and women in the U.S., where women under 30 are significantly more liberal than men.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This is not gonna work because all conservative men are closeted homosexuals.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

They are desperate for children though

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yeah please actually fucking do this. men have had it too easy. it's time to stop appeasing them(us?). Yes patriarchy harms men quite a bit and they(we?) were already among its victims, but molly coddling men has clearly not worked.

this body i'm in, people see it and presume it's white, cis, and male, so i say this while fully understanding that women following 4B would treat me even less human than they already do. But frankly, every single aspect of me that has ever been 'masculine' feels less human already so i can't blame them. it would feel right. it would be eminently fair. i'm sick of being associated with the depravity of the misogynistic paradigm. i'd rather be completely ostracized and socially isolated than know that this shit is still going on. end it. fucking end it. please.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

I've noticed shitty men have it too easy. It's a cultural problem centered around what we value.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It worked in the Arab Spring

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not being facetious, but how many countries that were part of the Arab spring are now not effectively Islamic dictatorships?

It was a great thing at the time but it seems to me to have not paid off.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Man here, I fully agree with this.

I have been hoping for something to bring down the birthrate of the states that restrict abortion since the restrictions started.

I had been hoping for mass migration of 50% or so of all women from the relevant states, but I see how that can be difficult.

I truly hope that they are successful in gaining their rights back.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I call bullshit. Any politicaly aware liberal/progressive woman can sniff out a conservative dude 5 miles away. They ain't fucking these kinda dudes unless they actually wanna be fucking them. I just don't see it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yep, it also doesn't consider the 46% of women that voted for Trump or the near 50 million women that couldn't be bothered to vote at all.

This is a minority movement that is probably not much more than ineffective virtue signalling.

If you're wife doesn't want sex then that's usually a big problem for the relationship and could even end it. How many guys are going in to the ballot box in four years time and voting differently because they decided to get a divorce? It could possibly even entrench their views.

I'm probably going to get bored of saying this, but people that disagree with you need to be engaged not derided.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You don't have to give up marriage, sex, and dating in order to swear off men.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Well said, dragonfucker.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Completely reasonable response to Project 2025.

No sarcasm, I'm quite serious. This is the play.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

My only holdup is that I fear this would result in increased sexual assaults. I think the messaging is great, but fear for the collateral.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago

So… MGTOW for women?

Okay, bye

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