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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The majority of women are libs. It was the majority of women that voted Trump. They're not going to do anything.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

To be clear: The majority of women voted for Harris. The majority of white women voted for trump. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough but 45% is nearly half. It my not be the majority but my point is Trump is WIDELY supported by women.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, women didn't show up for Harris to the expected degree. It's really disappointing, especially considering the abortion issue. They voted for the abortion protection measures for their states (e.g. Missouri), and voted for trump at the same time. Idiots, thinking they would have their cake and eat it too, believing trump won't sign a nation-wide ban. FAFO

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
  1. A lot of them abstained due to the dems failing to do anything on the state level.
  2. A lot of them who voted just thought the Project 2025 was there to make the libs cry, and no human would be evil enough to execute them all.

Also a lot of Trump voters in the swing states are already regretting, if it continues, it can very well lead to a civil war, especially if Project 2025 will be executed. Who knows, maybe even the military will have issues with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

maybe even the military will have issues with it.

As individuals that can vote, sure.

As a whole-ass army... maybe? They'll have an issue with it if ordered to do anything unconstitutional. The tricky bit is what the individual leader(s) in the military think about any such order. An additional complication is how the Supreme Court may or may not weigh in, as their responsibility is to interpret the constitution.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Once more into the breach

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sooooo… better start learning the words to Bella Ciao huh?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

With respect to The Internationale, that's just not a banger like Bella Ciao is. If I'm thinking of 'let's oppose a fascist regime and/or do some Operation Gladio shit in 1970's Italy while carrying submachineguns, dressed in leather jackets and balaclavas', Bella Ciao is a much more appropriate choice for a modern era.

A lot of the versions of The Internationale that I've heard sound more like school plays. It's not something one would describe as 'rousing'.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Disagree. Watch Reds.

Did you say "do Gladio shit"? Like enlist fascists, virulent anti-communists that they are, to carry out terrorist attacks against civilian populations to then blame on communists in order to crush the influence of socialists in government and justify purges of socialists and communists from every sphere of life? That gladio shit?

The revolution will not be won by beautiful dead, tears in their eyes, clutching their rifles. It will be won by a political revolution of the working class for the benefit of all. There will certainly be fighting, of which the internationale sings about explicitly:

No more deluded by reaction
On tyrants only we’ll make war
The soldiers too will take strike action
They’ll break ranks and fight no more.
And if those cannibals keep trying
To sacrifice us to their pride
They soon shall hear the bullets flying
We’ll shoot the generals on our own side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Re: Gladio: no, not the bad bits that cropped up eventually, but the original purpose of fighting an oppressive regime that's taken hold within your own borders. Don't take it TOO seriously :D

I'd love to see a bloodless political revolution. But past history leads me to believe there's gonna be guns involved somewhere down the line for there to be actual change.

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