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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Someone should really tell everyone from the south. I had no idea until it was pointed out to me by someone younger. Changed my behavior of course, but was simply ignorant before.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

With an attitude like that, something tells me that pirate won't be getting any booty

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

he'd probably call women maidens

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Remember, pirates did fly red flags as well as black ones. The red ones meant you were extra fucked.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

I think black was like, "We just want your shit and we'll let you live if you surrender" while red was like, "We're gonna kill and then take your shit or take your shit and then kill you, either way you will not survive," kinda thing.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Or they are just non-native english speakers

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure non natives will be the first ones to use "woman" and not "female". I know it's not something we say in French anyway, a woman is a woman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

a woman is a woman

Problematic part

Blague à part, il existe d'autres langue (non-indo-européennes) ou la distinction est moins aisée à faire. Par exemple en Hongrois on dit "nő" pour "femme" et "nőstény" pour "femelle", mais on peut les interchanger dans certains cas et les traducteurs automatiques s'y emmêlent les pinceaux des fois.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but those people don't get defensive when you comment on it, while those who are raising the red flag immediately do. It's pretty easy to tell them apart from that point forward.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

What a sweetheart you are. Can't even let a webcomic get away with not being inclusive.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Say they're raising a flag, raises a sail instead.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I been wondering people's opinion of "Female" in some instances. Like is "First Female president/athlete/mayor/lawyer" appropriate? "First woman____" doesn't sound right and you wouldn't say "first man athlete to run 2 hour marathon" you would use male.

Most things can be rephrased maybe, but obviously using Females outside these instances is very right wing cringe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Woman as an adjective is picking up in my circles and podcasts I listen to. Woman scientist, woman entrepreneur. It may have sounded weird initially, but I've gotten over it and I suspect it will develop over time to be completely normal.

I wouldn't really compare it to the male/man counterpart, because men aren't demeaned by being called "male" regularly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I agree it works in most cases it works fine but like "First woman astronaut" feels weird.

I mostly didn't want to be accidentally participating in something shitty.

Edit: or like "fastest woman athlete"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I remember feeling like it was weird, but both of those sound absolutely fine to me now.

I also would never balk at "female" as an adjective in those cases, nor assume the speaker was being misogynist.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Female" is fine to use as an adjective.

It's also fine to use as a noun when describing livestock, which is why it's a red flag to describe women that way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

What is a good word to use for people who are female of any age including young children that are not old enough to be called women in addition to women?

'Women and girls' is pretty clunky when talking about something that is gender specific, but applies to all ages.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just ask yourself if you'd use "males" in that context.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I absolutely would use males in that context. "Toxic masculinity has a detrimental affect on males of all ages" sounds perfectly fine to me because I don't know of a different label for the group and males doesn't have the same dehumanizing usage as females.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

boys and men / girls and women sounds right to me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

'Gendered violence against teenage women and girls' is really clunky. Especially if it needs repeating across paragraphs.

If there isn't something, that's fine.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Gendered violence against females" on the other hand sounds a bit too clinical though... Like you're removing their personhood

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If 'females' wasn't used by online sexists to treat women as objects would it sound that way?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe! I don't know if "gendered violence against men" also has the same connotations.

Maybe this is indeed is a case of those people poisoning the term.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

"Don't forget about gendered violence against boys!" would be a likely response to a statement about men.

It is absolutely a case of a term being poisoned, which does mean it needs to be treated more carefully but sucks when there isn't an alternative.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Women is probably fine to use when the ages can be gleaned from context. You can also make the noun non gendered and use female as a adjective like “female students” or “female patients”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm mainly asking when ages span from birth to old age and the goup would basically be "female persons" or "male persons" which is clunky.

Sometimes it can be rephrased, but it often requires multiple words to mean the same thing. Plus "women of all ages" will be read as not including children.

I'm mostly pissed that sexists ruined the only single word term we have for half of the population.

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yes, fun idea. No problem with that but... that 'flag' is a sail. They're different things.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago

Using a sail to fly your colours is a red flag.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Sus. Having any issue with a red flag meme. /s

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Lmao good one

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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