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On election night, as the results looked to be in Trump’s favor, the baseless conspiracy theories about fraud began tapering off.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well Dems did get 13 million fewer votes this time.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is what I keep hearing: the drop in turn out proves the previous claims of fraud were correct.

They were so primed to complain about voting fraud that when they never got updated marching orders on what fraud to complain about, they just went back to the well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It doesn't prove fraud in the last election, obviously. But it does make fraud in this election dramatically less a consideration for those who might suspect it

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (3 children)

We know they've tried electoral interference before, what are the chances they did it again this and it worked this time?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How common was voter purge this time around? Could it have impacted people who voted early?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (11 children)

The GOP winning at all means it worked, just as it has in the past. Gerrymandering, voter purges, limiting access, corrupt judiciary, prisons, dark money groups, etc. That is how the GOP has won for several decades. They have NEVER been able to win a fair democratic election on a national level.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Its almost as if, I don't know, every single thing out of their mouth is completely fucking bullshit

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I wonder if the government still controls the weather?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My co-worker and I were talking about that last night. I told her that it's amazing that not one fucking republican as uttered those two words, "voters fraud", since Tuesday night. Isn't it amazing how that is no longer a problem???? The fucking hypocrites!!!!

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Let's move on. This is what the American people wanted. Let them burn it all down. The adults will pick up the pieces when it's all over.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (11 children)

In the last few months, he claimed that "we have all the votes we need", and his followers didn't need to vote anymore, they were going to win. I immediately thought he meant they were going to cheat. I can't find the place he said this, it was at a rally. It's not the same as his comment that he made to a bunch of christians that said they won't have to vote again in the future because they were going to "fix it". This was after that. This guy is a lifelong con man, he lies and cheats. Somehow I believe he did that in this election. I hope they find out he paid for votes because that's just his style.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

My wife literally just told me this today. Apparently he said it multiple times - someone made a supercut. I haven't seen it yet myself.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And yet I still have Facebook friends posting about how “all the states Kamala won are the ones that don’t require photo ID…”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Those aren't your friends. Those are Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Of fucking course. These people really should try breathing through their noses.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Given their penchant for projection, has anyone considered that the fraud was coming from inside the house?

I believe we have one of the most secure elections in the world. I don't believe in conspiratorial bullshit. I'm just saying, anything the Republicans accuse others with is frankly evidence that they are doing it themselves.

They tell me immigrants are eating pets? Yeah I'm going to say there's definitely a non-zero chance that republicans are out there picking up roadkill cats and dogs. I mean Kennedy has probably done that 100 times himself.

So if the Republicans accuse Democrats of creating millions of fake votes I doubt it's possible to do, but let's double check anyway because now they've made me suspicious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe we have one of the most secure elections in the world.

That's unfortunate.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's very true. Voter fraud is statistically non-existent here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know this to be true, and I am very angry at the mistakes the Dems made in this campaign. But 15 million less Democrat voters? That seems like a LOT of people deciding to stay home. If you told me Jill Stein got 15 million votes, I'd find that easier to believe than 15 million just stayed home compared to 2020.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

With record turnout out early voting. Don’t forget about that. The news were throwing that around a week before.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can we also consider that intentionally making it harder to vote in Democrat leaning counties in otherwise Republican States is electoral fraud? Because it kinda is.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

If you remove the word kinda, your comment becomes true

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They literally had their supporters burn drop-off ballot boxes and destroy ballots. They literally intimidated other voters. They harassed poll workers and volunteers whose entire purpose is to ensure everyone who is eligible to vote has everything they need in order to do so. Yet no one is batting a fucking eye. THESE FUCKERS STOLE THE ELECTION. 15 million less votes than what Biden got and Trump got about the same as he did when he ran before. This stinks of interference.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

I don't think that the physical interference would have been enough to turn this one. The interference in the media/social media however was definitely the root cause to this. Along with Democrats shifting more right than they have in decades

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Wait so I can't just tweet, without context anymore just...

RIGGED!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No worries, they'll claim voter fraud next set of elections and by 2028 there won't be elections to claim fraud on.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah I'm pretty sure this was our last real presidential election. The rest will be pure spectacle and will be used for fund raising and entertainment purposes only.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does that mean we’re handing candidates swords instead of doing debates?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

They’ll use proxies, unfortunately. Hire out of work Democrats to do the actual fighting.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Gosh, so they aren't going to organize a "stop the steal" that is designed to specifically steal an election?

[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No, the narrative just changed. Good luck convincing anyone the 2020 election wasn't stolen ever again.

"I told you. In 2020 we won all 50 states. Voter fraud by the millions. I was saying it all along. But we worked hard, we passed laws for election integrity, we watched the polls and they couldn't cram their 10, 15 million votes into the boxes again. And look what happened. Instead of winning by 8 million votes, she lost by 6 million votes. Which is what should have happened last time."

This is the narrative I've been hearing. The voters that just stayed home simply never existed in the first place, as far as they're concerned. He's going to use this victory as proof of his claim that he should have won last time, voter fraud was rampant, and Democrats are cheaters. And it's going to work.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Should we tell him who was president in 2020 and who was president in 2024? Oh right, it doesn’t matter to them as long as they repeat it a million times.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And it’s going to work.

Well, let's face it - the target audience for such stupid narratives are his base, and they are dumb as a box of rocks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Remember that half of the population is below average.

I’m assuming that other 2% had other motivations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Below average? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's honestly now how averages work. Most of the population is roughly average.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please don't insult them. Boxes of rocks can still serve a purpose and don't deserve to be denigrated like that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

No box of rocks ever called me a ______. Insert a slur!

No box of rocks ever had his picture taken with Jeffrey Epstein!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

And used to support the claim to change voting in some way, or do away with it at least for Federal level.

[–] [email protected] 198 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't that weird?

It's almost like they didn't believe in their own claims.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or they don't want anyone investigating their victory too closely

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

They already caught republicans doing shady shit before Tuesday. Who knows how many they didn’t catch.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Don’t worry, they’ll still have Biden, Clintons, and Kamala to blame for all of Donnie’s mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Barack HUSSEIN Obama

Sorry, there was just an orange turd that made a law that made it illegal to not call him that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Thanks adespoton!

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