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Going to be quite scant on details but...

I was out and about, and was messaged by two friends independently saying they were surprised to see me in a YouTube video.

Confused, I asked what they were on about. Turns out, a guy I gave advice to had then started recording me towards the end of our interaction without telling me, and has, weeks later, uploaded it as part of a longer video.

I was pretty tired at the time and doing the guy a favour (out of annoyance), and I don't like a few things, one of those being that he put me online (which, within hours has been viewed hundreds of thousands of times).

What can I do? I have already messaged him to tell him to remove me, but this seems like a ridiculous invasion of privacy.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Depends on your country/state. Ask him to redo that section of the video to leave your presence out of it to respect your privacy. If it affects you negatively in any way and puts you at risk, that is also something you can sue for.

I personally am a fan of being able to record any situation you might want to hold people liable to, but another thing completely is spreading it irresponsibly through social networks as a hit piece for an idea that you want to disseminate a biased and caricaturized version of an interview to represent, specially when they might not even be representing themselves in any capacity. I don't think they need to take their video down, they just might need to obfuscate your face and voice on request.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I personally am a fan of being able to record any situation you might want to hold people liable to

I am not a public figure, and the questions were pretty innocuous, I just do not want to be filmed in a not-so-public place in an underhanded way without permission, especially when money is being made from the video.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where do you live? What are the laws around recording another person without their consent. Note that usually audio recording in public is more restrictive than video in public, so assuming he didn't mute the audio of the clip, you probably have a case there.

As for the suggestion about DMCA takedowns, that depends on of the information you shared could be considered copyrightable since the recording copyright belongs to the person doing the recording. That's not common, so you could file a DMCA takedown, but I have a feeling it might not be legitimate. There might be other YouTube terms and conditions that they violated, though. Check the "Report" button for the options. I don't have an account anymore to look.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

In America so long as your in public and haven't made privacy for yourself then audio or video are the same. If I could hear it and remember it and I'm in public I can record it. If I can see it and remember it and I'm in public I can record it. Audio only matters if they have a reasonable belief that the conversation is private.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

File a DMCA with Youtube.Videos get taken down all the time with this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

This is illegal will get your own account banned and can be undone by the guy asserting accurately that you don't own the copyright to his video. Strategies that work great for scummy companies with teams of lawyers aren't always great for those without.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Ask a local lawyer. Laws vary about recording someone without their permission.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Frivolous DMCA takedown request?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

IANAL (and likely neither is anyone here) - and I think the answer would be "it depends" on other details if you asked a lawyer to make a decision on what you've shared. So I think that is the only route if you can't get YouTube or the blogger to do the right thing.

Some relevant things this might hinge on:

  • Is the person posting this doing making videos as a business venture - e.g. by making videos that they hope to profit from (e.g. by including advertising in it, or through YouTube monetisation)? If this was done as part of a business, that could make a big difference (generally businesses are held to a higher standard).
  • Which country did this happen in? Laws are different between countries.
  • Did they deceive you in any way to get you to do what they wanted for the video?
  • Are you a public figure in any way (prior to the video)?

Some potential causes of action that your lawyer could consider if they apply:

  • Misleading conduct - if they used deception in the course of their trade.
  • Fraud - if they obtained valuable consideration (your video performance) through deception.
  • Privacy Infringement - if they processed (including collected) your personally identifiable information (e.g. including images / videos of your face, or the identifiable sound of your voice) without consent or another lawful basis / denial of right of erasure. Some of this could apply to Google too - you might be able to submit a Right of Erasure (right to be forgotten) legal request, and at minimum they might need to blur your face and mask the audio so you aren't identifiable.
  • Copyright infringement - potentially what they recorded counts as a performance and you have a copyright interest in the video. Another one that could apply to Google and be used to take it down.
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those are very good points. It's very monetised so that will help. Would I submit right to erasure through YouTube?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Depends on the country and where it was recorded

In a lot of places, it's completely legal to record if he's part of the conversation.

If he was not, in many places it's illegal

If it's a public place where there is no expectation of privacy, also possibly nothing you can do

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Recording and public dissemination of that recording through social networks are quite different concepts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Even if it's a public place, if he was a business (and maybe he his because it's a yt channel) he may need to give you a model consent form before sharing your likeness

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago

I'd send him an email informing you will seek to take legal action if he doesn't take you offline within 24h.

[–] [email protected] 148 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You mentioned this was in Europe. You are protected under the GDPR. There are additional laws if this happened in Germany or the UK. Your best bet is private lawyer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Depending on where you live, and what service providers you have, you might even get a free lawyer for these kinds of things.

For example in my situation I have free legal help bundled to my mobile data plan for ID theft, gdpr violations, and for removal of images and videos I didn't concent to have recorded.

Check your services, and you might save a bunch of money.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Well there goes my Judge Judy idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd recommend on googling for "free lawyers in your_region" you might have these options available to you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It would cross borders which I will not be remaining in very long.