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The atmosphere is so heated, and the statements are getting more and more extreme. Let's just assume Harris wins the election. After a campaign like this, how could you ever have a normal relationship with your pro-Trump neighbor/father-in-law/Uncle/Barber or what ever again?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is now easier to identify political whackadoos and disengage.

I moved to the bluest neighborhood in a blue town in a purple county in a bluish purple state. I actually enjoy talking to my neighbors about politics now, I can out out positive messages without getting my house egged.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It is now easier to identify political whackadoos and disengage

I would have said that four years ago, but between Elon's Twitter and COVID anti-vax hysteria, it feels like crazy people are coming out of the woodwork.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

I don't want a normal relationship with my Trump loving neighbor. He and his racist wife can go fuck themselves. Their signs and banners told me who they are. I'm choosing to listen

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You don't. It wasn't really normal before 2016 and normal left the building since.

Since 2016, its been a constant onslaught of idiots that live on the internet creeping out into the real world with their bullshit and conspiracy theories and half of America taking them seriously

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

This attitude is part of why we have this problem today. These people didn't come from nowhere. They weren't just creeps on the internet. The percentage of the population that desires a trump presidency is far too significant. Half the country has been quietly wishing for a christo-fascist oligarchy since 2001. They've put in a lot of time and effort to make their dream come true. It's a shame nobody was really watching (even though the FBI has reports going back years about the infiltration of white supremacy groups into law enforcement), at least not close enough to make a difference in its growth.

The unfortunate truth is that this was allowed to happen. We dismissed their beliefs as crazy rantings instead of real threats to be addressed. If people more readily acknowledged the beliefs held by trumpets as real (a real threat) instead of internet insanity, we wouldn't be here. Instead, we shoved them away, crying wacko. Now the propaganda runs so deep in most, there is literally no turning them back. The rise of fascism in this country hasn't been taken seriously enough. And I don't think it ever will be, until it's far too late.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Whole i agree with most of your comment, I'm not really reading any solutions. I'd my attitude is the problem, what's the proper attitude to have to deal with these imbeciles?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I blame McCain. When he chose Palin to be his running mate in 08, he gave voice to the crazies on the right wing. It wasn't long after that that we saw the rise of the tea party, which led to maga.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think it really started with the Clinton impeachment, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, then we had the stolen 2000 election, then 9/11, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, "support our troops", anti Muslim rhetoric, then the rise of social media. All coincides with the brainwashed kids/boomers who came out of the heritage foundation. Obviously, the racism and conservatism was always in the background. You could even trace it back further to Regan/Nixon/McCarthy. Also, desegregation.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah the tea party started around 2009, so that tracks. However, I'd say we had this current undercurrent of fascism since Reagan. I don't know if it was a little more chill in the few decades before him but we did also have FDR and internment camps, the Amerocan nazi parties live the German American Bund and others.

It's something that american society can't seem to shake nor doesn't want to

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Lol.

What's normal?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

you don't. you believe them when they tell you who they are and remove them from your life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or, do what a disturbing number of people have done and make them the centrepiece of your entire life.

Posters all over your house, stickers and flags all over your mobility scooter, hats, T-shirts, the lot.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

For me, I assume the Trump voters in my life have fallen for propaganda. Not every Trump voter realized that Trump isn’t in their interest; they’re simple people who think Trump is funny and down to earth and points out many of the serious problems we genuinely do have.

The issue, of course, is that he’s not going to help fix those problems. He’s going to make the country far worse and is obviously only in it for himself.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'd agree, if it wasn't for you having an obligation as a voting citizen to be somewhat informed of your decision. Anyone who votes for Trump has either failed to meet that basic requirement, or they're a shitty person. The latter is actually fine, the former is not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Faithless electors have happened a couple times historically.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

it's not hard to see what a piece of shit he is so if you're still voting for him you're also a piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, you could also be gullible or stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I disagree.

It's not easy for them to see why Trump is a POS. They are victims of a 50 year effort by the oligarchs of this Country to destroy the poor and the middle class. They are victims of Foreign Propaganda that has taken root and grown like cancer. They have been gaslit into believing everything wrong with this Country is because of a political party, not the wealthy elite who have them fighting for crumbs.

The American people and it's Well have been fed a steady diet of poison and it's led to an intense polarization, isolationism, and record level of fear.

It's impossible to act rationally or reasonably when scared and any one who votes for Trump is mainlining fear, uncertainty and doubt.

They are trapped in a 1984 Orwellian distopia where their entire reality is controlled and fabricated by a fascist organization. Their level of cognitive dissonance is off the charts.

You would not be able to convince them that the sky is blue if Trump told them it was green.

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