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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Brian Merchant put out a "complete guide to luddite horror films", which focuses on horror films which directly critique tech in one way or another.

On a personal note, I suspect "luddite horror" (alternatively called "techno-horror") is probably gonna blow up in popularity pretty soon - between boiling resentment against tech in general, and the impending burst of the AI bubble, I suspect audiences are gonna be hungry as hell for that kinda stuff.

Additionally, I suspect AI as a whole (and likely its supporters) will find itself becoming a pop-culture punchline much the same way NFTs/crypto did. Beyond getting pushed into everyone's faces whether they liked it or not, public embarrassments like Google's glue pizza debacle and ChatGPT's fake cases have already given comedians plenty of material to use, whilst the ongoing slop-nami turned "AI" as a term into a pretty scathing pejorative within the context of creative arts.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

FastCompany: "In Apple’s new ads for AI tools, we’re all total idiots"

It's interesting that not even Apple, with all their marketing knowledge, can come up with anything convincing why users might need "Apple Intelligence"[1]. These new ads are not quite as terrible as that previous "Crush" AI ad, but especially the one with the birthday... I find it just alienating.

Whatever one may think about Apple and their business practices, they are typically very good at marketing. So if even Apple can't find a good consumer pitch for GenAI crap, I don't think anyone can.

[1] I'd like to express support for this post from Jeff Johnson to call it "iSlop"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

[1] I’d like to express support for this post from Jeff Johnson to call it “iSlop”

Its simple, its catchy, and it turns Apple's own naming scheme against them, I'm fully in support of this.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Talk with PM went nowhere. Very nice guy, but was insistent on giving the reviewer the benefit of the doubt. I just wanna die.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

oof, I’m sorry. it’s so hard to get capitalists to understand the nature of what they’re enabling, especially if it seems to be working in the short term. it’s the most frustrating thing during a bubble — it taints every decision the executive class makes, and enables grifters to get away with obvious shit even over objections from people who know better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

oof :x

what's the next step on that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I'm really sorry. I know how frustrating all of this bullshit is. Here for you. <3

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

That fucking sucks, esp as you put a lot of time into it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Adobe execs say artists need to embrace AI or get left behind [Jess Weatherbed, The Verge]

Adobe is going all in on generative AI models and tools, even if that means turning away creators who dislike the technology. Artists who refuse to embrace AI in their work are “not going to be successful in this new world without using it,” says Alexandru Costin, vice president of generative AI at Adobe.

Personally, I think this is gonna backfire pretty damn hard on Adobe - artists' already distrust and hate them as it is, and Procreate, their chief competition, earned a lot of artists' goodwill by publicly rejecting gen-AI some time ago. All this will likely do is push artists to jump ship, viewing Adobe as actively hostile to their continued existence.

On a wider note, it seems pretty clear to me Alexandru Costin's drank the technological determinist Kool-Aid and has come to believe autoplag's dominance is inevitable. He's not the first person I've seen drink that particular Kool-Aid, he's almost certainly not the last, and I suspect that the mass-drinking of that Kool-Aid's fueling the tech industry's relentless doubling-down on gen-AI. A doubling-down I expect will bite them in the ass quite spectacularly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

not going to be successful in this new world without using it

The hubris is almost impressive in itself. There's not a single technology in human history that has managed to kill every art form not using it. Digital art didn't do it, photography, pencil, movable type printing, nib pens, oil paints, scraffito, probably not even the invention of currency did it. He thinks autoplag of all things will?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

the boot just does not understand why the face under it is complaining

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, he is their VP of Autoplag, so I imagine he's got even more reason to believe than the average MBA. That doesn't undermine your point, but I think the fact that adobe has appointed a VP of Autoplag should be part of the story to begin with, rather than being assumed. Did they ever have a VP of blockchain? Or a VP of copyright fraud?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

oh dear, how sad, nevermind.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

oh no, a bunch of nationalist pricks might stop fucking up our community spaces. I might never have a proud Russian gatekeep my contributions ever again! no please don’t go

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

and here’s hoping the American nationalist devs contributing on behalf of their military-industrial complex employer (hello Anduril) take a hint from this and also fuck off to their own communities where they can bully each other for no fucking reason

they won’t because the cruelty is the point for fascists regardless of nation, but here’s hoping

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

JFC it was just 11 individuals??? To read the Putin sockpuppets having a Russian grandmother was enough to be booted from the MAINTAINERS list, your computer confiscated, and you being sent to Archangelsk on trumped-up charges.

Oh wait, that's just what happens to random teens in Russia: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7v5rn8jr82o

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

mr president, we must not allow kernel gap

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