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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Look who are in the news again, has it been six months again?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Stephanie Kirchgaessner is the deputy head of investigations for Guardian US, based in Washington DC

Hannah Devlin is the Guardian's science correspondent, having previously been science editor of the Times. She has a PhD in biomedical imaging from the University of Oxford.

so is it that both these fuckers are ideologically bankrupt, or are they willing complicit ghouls?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Quick update - Brian Merchant's list of "luddite horror" films ended up getting picked up by Fast Company:

To repeat a previous point of mine, it seems pretty safe to assume "luddite horror" is gonna become a bit of a trend. To make a specific (if unrelated) prediction, I imagine we're gonna see AI systems and/or their supporters become pretty popular villains in the future - the AI bubble's produces plenty of resentment towards AI specifically and tech more generally, and the public's gonna find plenty of catharsis in watching them go down.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Personally, I'd love to the the Luddites get rehabilitated as a result of the Great Bullshit Collapse. They were just regular folks fighting for dignity in work, and it's tragic how successful the bastards have been at erasing them from history.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Judging by some stray articles from WIRED and The Atlantic, Merchant's likely done plenty to rehabilitate the Luddites' image.

I suspect Silicon Valley's godawful reputation and widespread hatred of AI have likely helped as well - "machinery harmful to commonality" may be an unfamiliar concept to Joe Public, but "AI is ruining the Internet/taking your job/scamming your parents" is very fucking tangible to them.

Pulling out a previous post of mine, the NFT craze likely helped indirectly, by killing technological determinism's hold on the public and badly wounding Silicon Valley's public image.

Of those two, technological determinism's death was probably the more important one - that idea's demise meant the public was willing to entertain that new tech developments from Silicon Valley could be killed in their crib, that they wouldn't inevitably become a part of public life, for worse or (potentially) for better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

nfts damaged public image of crypto beyond recovery, fine. tech in general, i'm not so sure

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd say they did do some damage to tech's wider image by becoming a pop-culture punchline and a mark of shame rolled into one.

Incidents like Seth Green's Ape getting kidnapped, the public exploitation of George Floyd's death and the legendary dumpster fire that was The Red Ape Family, plus the onslaught of dogshit NFT art and the nonstop scams and deception within the NFT/crypto sphere all led NFTs to become widely and rightfully panned, with NFTs getting unflatteringly compared to beanie babies and NFT profile pics getting either right-click saved to mock their supposed "ownership" or blocked on sight, depending on how people generally felt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

It is refreshing to see the general trend of people laughing when promptbros try to paint themselves as the Wright Brothers Reborn, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

my point is that these incidents were mostly mentally filed to "crypto" and were not generalized to wider tech industry

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Going outside awful's wheelhouse for a bit:

Logan Paul doxed and harassed a random employee for posting a sign saying Lunchly was recalled

You want my take, the employee in question (who also got a GoFundMe) should sue Logan for defamation - solid case aside, I wanna see that blonde fucker get humbled for once.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I hated seeing that guy just wanting to live his life dragged into weird net drama and pushed under the bus by his company. And wow look at how collected and reasonable he was compared to anyone else in the story.

All Mr. Paul had to do was shut the hell up for once and the world'd still be talking about his moldy cheese bread instead of about his moldy cheese bread and how he bullies and doxes retail workers.

All Fred Meyer had to do is be like "whoops looks like the product recall procedure at that store was vague recollections, we'll get a policy in place".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The sole silver lining of this situation is that Logan's deplorable behaviour probably scared at least a few shops away from stocking Lunchly - not just because of the risk you end up selling some mold-ridden garbage (most likely to kids), but because you risk Logan starting a harassment campaign against you or your store.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The AI lawsuit's going to discovery - I expect things are about to heat up massively for the AI industry:

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