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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (21 children)

Has ESR always been antigay or is the latest ‘gays=pedo” spiel new?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like Ed is underselling the degree to which this is just how businesses work now. The emphasis on growth mindset is particularly gross because of how it sells the CEOs book, but it's not unique in trying to find a feel-good vibes-based way to evaluate performance rather than relying on strict metrics that give management less power over their direct reports.

Of course he's also written at length about the overall problem that this feeds into (organizations run by people with no idea how to make the business do what it does but who can make the number go up for shareholders) but the most unique part of this is the AI integration, which is legitimately horrifying and I feel like the debunk of growth mindset takes some of the sting away.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Amazon has a similar cult-y thing going on with its ✨leadership principles✨, but this seems worse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Didn’t corporations used to use landmark and shit like that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

For anyone who wants a belated Halloween scare:

Mental diarrhea from Donald Trump

https://xcancel.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1852033244729860397

Spoiler: The real kicker is in the hash tags.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Electric Wizard 🤝Donald Trump
"Legalize Drugs & Murder"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Truly, we are blessed to have a candidate willing to represent the freedom to sell anything on a darknet market and hire a hitman to take out your previous partners or detractors or whatever.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

—What kind of gambling do you usually have here?
—Oh, we got both kinds. We got day trading and betting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A woman was scheduled to give a talk at an AI conference. The organizers run her photo through an AI image expansion program to get the aspect-ratio right (how did we ever manage to show photos of speakers before AI existed?).

The AI image expansion invents a bra / undershirt which wasn't visible in the original photo.

https://xcancel.com/elizlaraki/status/1846252781851890026

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd like to imagine that Adobe/other AI photo editing people are frantically scrambling to fondle their prompts a little harder to avoid things like this. Infinite whack-a-mole.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

This made the rounds last week IIRC. Though, looking at it again I realize I didn't notice how over-stressed the hallucinated button is. It's funny in a disgusting way.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't think it's exclusively due to rust but it's a very cool change

can only imagine how much wailing and consternation it must be causing in some areas

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t think it’s exclusively due to rust

to be fair, I don’t know any other languages concerned with safety other than rust, so it was my only option for joke construction.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

the C reactionaries[*] I know definitely aren’t ok, but that’s not a new condition. the cognitive load of never, ever writing bugs takes its toll, you know?

[*] and I feel like I have to specify here: your average C dev probably isn’t a C reactionary, but the type of fuckhead who uses C to gatekeep systems development definitely is

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You (group A) think C is simple, that it can be thought of as portable assembly, that it teaches you how computers actually work, and that it's easy to avoid memory safety errors with good programming discipline, and is therefore fine.

You (group B) think C is deceptively complex, is far removed from current-day real world hardware semantics, abstracts memory in an outdated and overly simplified manner, and that it's very hard for even professionals to write programs that are correct to the extent of equivalent programs in memory safe languages, therefore C shouldn't be use for new software development.

I think C is deceptively complex, is far removed from current-day real world hardware semantics, abstracts memory in an outdated and overly simplified manner, and that it's very hard for even professionals to write programs that are correct to the extent of equivalent programs in memory safe languages, which are some of the features that make C so fun and exciting. Like rawdogging a one night stand!

We are not the same.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah that's the property of C that ensures it will never go away. If you keep telling young men (which most programmers starting out are) that this language is so dangerous, so scary, of course they'll start using it. There's all sorts of rationalizations going on - it's portable, it's performant, it's what the computer is really like - to justify basically driving a fast car without a seatbelt for the sheer thrill of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Past a certain point it's a little bit like learning to type on a typewriter. On one hand it forces you to think about certain types of mistakes and forces you to avoid making errors. On the other hand it gives you a whole bunch of trained habits that are either useless or actively harmful once you're working with better tools.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Now to be fair, C really is quite close to what the machine is really like, if by C you mean B and by machine you mean PDP-7.

It's also highly portable in the sense that all twenty or thirty well-formed, standard-compliant and nontrivial C programs ever written can be compiled to a mind-bogglingly huge variety of hardware and OS targets and even work correctly on some of them.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

[*] and I feel like I have to specify here

and like all C things, the specificities of pointer mechanics might mean any one of of a number of things and they're all correct

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The original statement was clearly meant to dereference a pointer to an object of type "reactionary," but I expected it to return maybe a Yarvin or at least a Catturd

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

the thrill of UB: you try to dereference a C reactionary but get a lambda calculus neoreactionary instead

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Was browsing ebay, looking for some piece of older used consumer electronics. Found a listing where the description text was written like crappy ad copy. Cheap over-the-top praising the thing. But zero words about the condition of the used item, i.e. the actually important part was completely missing. And then at the end of the description it said... this description text was generated by AI.

AI slop is like mold, it really gets everywhere and ruins everything.

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