MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Honestly China and the US should be allies. It would be a unstoppable combo.
The US ambition to fight China will never stop being hilarious
Who wants to fight China?
We just want to make money, it’s the most core American value.
It’s the tankies on ML who wish China would export communism instead of practicing “capitalism with Chinese characteristics”
While I agree that China is a biggest actual threat in the world outside of a smaller rogue nation starting to lob nukes everywhere, China doesn't have a great track record with trying to take on any Western powers for centuries now. Even when they tried to take on the west allied Japan it didn't go so hot for them.
China simps want China to fight the US so badly to make them feel like big boys who took the big boy side.
Despite the fact that neither China nor the US want to fight.
It's funny, in a sad kind of way.
Invading the Falklands absolutely trashed Argentina's economy, and being offside with the UK continues to hurt them.
Attempting to invade Taiwan would utterly destroy the Chinese economy, and I think they're smart enough to know it.
And don't give them any benefits, TSMC most valuable asset is their employees not the machines anyone can buy ASML machines, only TSMC employees can do it as good as they do
AFAIK China isn’t allowed to buy loads of fancy ASML machines, however TSMC has said they have procedures to destroy those machines if there’s ever an invasion
anyone can buy ASML machines
I'd be very surprised if China was allowed to do this after invading Taiwan.
A yes of course, but I was talking more about how AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Apple, Samsung all have the best in the industry, but still no one can just buy ASML and make chips as good as TSMC
I also want China and USA to fight but that's because im a accelerationist and I want to get humanity to the next level.
(Its good for my stocks as well)
Its good for my stocks as well
Are you invested solely in defense stocks?
Basically
Please no advocating for violence, even if you're joking.
though what's the next level?
Where's the fun in that?
Next level is us being replaced by robots because we can't live in a nuclear wasteland...
(No actually war or cold war drives up innovation through competition)
Economic competition also drives innovation, but with less bloodshed.
NCD leaking lmao
Oops
America could wipe the floor with China and still have the capacity to fight Russia at the same time.
It's what our defense budget is for.
For a software programmer working out of Toronto, he sure has some interesting perspectives on Maoism.
Tankie are the kind of people who will criticise capitalism while indulge in it.
Lats I got his IP it wasn't in Canada...
(Idiot clicked a tracking link)
Do not post about IPs
Almost every IP now is meaningless
mastadon: https://mas.to/@yogthos
which leads to..
his pixelfed: https://pixelfed.social/Yogthos
which leads to..
his github: https://github.com/yogthos
which says Toronto, and Lumanu,
which leads to his employer's glassdoor
https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Lumanu-Software-Engineer-Salaries-E3708312_D_KO7,24.htm
He's a well paid software engineer working out of Toronto. The whole "marxist" thing is just schtict.
I think tankies say some pretty stupid shit too, but you shouldn't doxx people. I think the link to their presumed employer is a step too far.
Also, being a "well-paid software engineer"and a Marxist is only contradictory if you don't understand what Marxism is. Unless you are a part of the bourgeois (being well-paid is not the same thing), being a Marxist is a perfectly reasonable position to have.
The real problem is that many of the """Marxists""" on this site seem to be more interested in American Diabolism and doing apologia for a different set of genocides (the few that America opposes).
Regardless, it's bad to doxx people.
thank you for calling them out
Though I am curious about your thoughts on Marxism as every theory has many takes and interpretations. I'm of the opinion that simply having exuberant wealth is still exploitation, no matter how righteous you try to be with it.
I'm no marxist, but aren't they somewhat their ideology's target demographic?
aren’t they somewhat their ideology’s target demographic?
Huh?
Toronto based software engineers are the target demographic of Marxists? Or Marxists are the target demographic of Toronto based software engineers?
Maybe they mean engineers in general? Engineers tend to be over-represented in cults, because "Smart people believe weird things because they are skilled at defending beliefs they arrived at for non-smart reasons."
Interesting info, thanks so he does live in canada.
Why is he using a privat VPN to Belarus then? (See my replay to goat)
Lots of people use VPNs. He's pretty tech savvy. Maybe its part of the cosplay.
I'm using a VPN as well, technically even two.
It being part of the cosplay could be a good explanation for it being to Belarus, a normal user routs over at max 3 countries when not wanting to access Geo blocked content due to speed.
What do you mean?
That his IP address was geolocatable to Belarus and that it wasn't a Tor node or known VPN exit so its likely he was actually there or used a private VPN to a country that is less free think than Russia itself. Both questionable.
There are services that put a tracking into a link to get information on the PC it was opened on. And some less public ones can do that with a inbound Image without need to click. Lemmy doesn't have protection against that stuff. And most don't block these services on DNS Level (wich is the last defense line for such a thing when you don't have a physical firewall standing around that might block the network from Sending a reply to the service)
Here is a very obvious looking example Attention, the link will track you when pressed https://imagehub.fun/8TVSAR.png this is a example of how it can look like.
Lemmy doesn't have protection no, but most routers and ISPs do.
Regardless I'm deleting all mentions of this topic. Personal information and doxxing is not allowed at all, you will be perma'd if you try it
Hey I didn't dox someone getting a public IP just gives a vague area. I didn't know the info provided by the other user was not publicly available.
Lemmy doesn't have protection no, but most routers and do.
Actually not that much, they communicate with a IP towards the outside and you can get that public IP, wich gives a vague area (as in next bigger city usually) and no, most routers don't have something like a killswitch that presents them from spilling the Private IP, that's one reason VPNs exist.
And the link was just a example of how it can look, If I wanted people to click on it I wouldn't have said "it will track you"
I understand but I need to be thorough and broad. Best drop this particular topic
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Wait. What happened here? Did they use Lemmy available system info to effectively doxx someone? That needs to be communicated. I'm aware no where in the internet is private but if it's a vector a chatter can quickly spool up that needs to be discussed (elsewhere, just seeking confirmation from you here)
(I can take this to DMs with you if you like)
It wasn't an issue with Lemmy system info. It's not a vector particular to Lemmy, it was something else.
Gotcha thanks
Ah its that stalinazi... Fuck him