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submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Amazon’s now-legendary “Prime Day” is July 8-11. Much like Black Friday or Cyber Monday, this means sales on lots of items on Amazon’s vast marketplace, and as such many people flock to the giant’s website to get sweet deals on everything from computers to small kitchen appliances and more. While many of us are feeling the financial crunch more than ever, I urge you, dear reader, to resist the allure. I don’t typically have strong opinions about where people chose to shop or how they decide to spend their heard-earned money, but in this post I hope to lay out a convincing case for why Amazon is full-stop evil, no caveats, and is undeserving of your money on a moral and ethical level no matter what your values are. Amazon needs to be stopped, and legislation will not do so. Only its loyal consumers – who keep the beast alive – can do that by taking their money elsewhere. No matter your political or personal beliefs, I'm certain Amazon violates them in one way or another, and you should vote with your dollar by buying from other places whenever possible. Here’s why.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Amazon basically solved this problem for me: they locked me out.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

full-stop

Instantly distrust.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Today, you learned that not everyone on the Internet is from the USA or Canada.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Thanks to my country here is no amazon

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which country, if you don’t mind telling?

Alternatively, is that a decision made by your country’s people/government? Or did Amazon just not want to operate there?

Very inspiring, if it is the former.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If I lived in a city where there are lots of different retailers that carry varieties of products then maybe I wouldn’t use Amazon. But when you live in a more rural area where the selection is limited and you like better stuff, there’s really not many other options.

It also seems like a very one sided criticism of Amazon. No corporation is good, and Amazon might very well be evil™️ but not everything about it is negative. It has also brought thousands of jobs to rural or semi rural areas that pay better than anything else in the area. They increase access to products that people like me wouldn’t be able to access otherwise. And they are actively trying to disrupt the healthcare industry by lowering prices and giving greater access to healthcare to people who are far from cities.

I also suspect that these descriptions of working conditions at Amazon centers seem to be cherry picked and might be attributed more to bad managers than company policy, because I’ve met people who work at Amazon warehouses and they don’t complain about this kind of stuff at all. In fact they seem to generally like their jobs.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Their business model has been to undercut and extinguish their competition for as long as they’ve been around. The ‘good’ you talk about is about controlling the market and leaving you with no choice as they’ve already largely done with your ‘nicer stuff’. Workers will be shit-canned without a second thought if they realize their ai/robot dreams. Drugs will become more expensive again once they capture the market.

The world depends on everyone voting with their wallets despite the inconvenience. You don’t have to be perfect, just make some changes. Pay more and support your small local businesses whenever possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It’s not about paying more. It’s that Amazon has products that local retailers simply do not stock and will never stock because the demand just isn’t there.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Enshittification.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Amazon is a parasite. That's all the reason I need.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’ve gone 3 years without ordering a single thing from amazon. I never intend to give them anymore money.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

anymore money.

  1. any more money
  2. money anymore

You can't straddle the lanes: you have to pick one.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or you can accept that it's a typo... and not freak out about a simple error that didn't diminish your understanding of their comment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Oh my god, yes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I dont agree with every point made, but agree with the overall sentinent. My problem is that the same thing can be said about other retailers, especially the brick and mortar ones. Walmart, Target, Home Depot, ...whoever. They've all done it, and continue to do it.

Small business? Yeah, those essentially don't exist in this context.

I have always said, ecommerce isn't killing brick and mortar retail. They are killing themselves. Why? Because I've never felt like a valued customer at any of the retailers out there. I've been absolutely shit on by all the big retailers out there. And that's not even getting into their policies, politics, and other behind the scenes stuff that I do care about, but it doesn't directly impact my shopping experience.

So then I can buy something online, from a wide selection, with competitive prices, have it delivered to my door quickly, and if there's any issues have zero problem with returns? That works for me.

Now in modern times I can argue that they don't always have great customer service, don't always have great pricing (for what you get), and its not all sunshine and roses. But I don't see a viable alternative.

Find me another retailer online or brick and mortar that can supply me well and treat me well and I'll go. But small business cant compete. And big retailers when they had all the money and power they didn't do that so now that they are the underdogs why would they do it? So it's just not happening.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Strictly, over consumption is the enemy. Less so where you buy, but the rampant rush to the bottom in price and quality is what the issue is. I shop where I get the best quality, rather than the best price

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I've never felt like a valued customer

I only have once, and it's made all the other ones seem so much worse by comparison.

Thank you Ace Hardware. You fucking ruined me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

ACE is more like a franchise than other retailers. Most are locally-owned. Some are employee-owned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The staff was friendly and helpful without being overbearing. They also knew what they were doing and could advise on projects. They weren't understaffed, and they generally all seemed to enjoy working there.

It was strange.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

That sounds so pleasant! Here, you go to Rona / Lowe's, you ask them a question and you're met with an "iunnodude". Maybe home hardware is comparable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

ACE is awesome compared to the competition. Especially if exchanging your propane tank.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Not OC, but here's no single story. Any time I pop into my local Ace I can instantly get help getting what I need, which is not always what I think I want when I enter the store. Consistently knowledgeable, helpful, and friendly staff, combined with my money staying in the neighborhood, makes it worth it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Defund Bezzzos!!!

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have yet to see a single item have a significant discount on prime day, it's not even a sale.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

~~Owned by Amazon, FYI.~~

Turns out I'm full of shit.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Prices mysteriously go up about a week before prime day sales, then drop to a few dollars below normal, scream “39% off” and you feel like you beat the system.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Or sometimes they remove a 25% off coupon that usually shows all the time and for the "sale" they just reduce the price of the item to that same amount without and then remove the coupon from the page. It will then look like it has gone on sale from camelcamelcamel because it wasn't accounting for the price after the coupon it was only showing the item price.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I remember at my first job in high school in a store on Main Street. We had a sidewalk sale with other business owners.

My innocence was lost when my boss instructed me to place higher prices using our ordinary white stickers and then cover them with ‘discounted’ orange sales stickers at slightly higher prices than normal.

These dicks just do it at scale. Amazon is a tawdry crime organization. We all know it.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Amazon makes the majority of its money from AWS. Literally using the Internet makes them buckets of money.

People can boycott it all they want. I just don't use them, but none of that really hurts Amazon in the end.

If people want to actually hurt Amazon they need to call on the Government to break up AWS, Ma Bell style.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

Hell, I guarantee there are Lemmy instances running on AWS.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 days ago

Your looking at gross income not net. By net income, AWS is over 50%.

https://www.investopedia.com/how-amazon-makes-money-4587523

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I try to use local stores or other websites, and only use Amazon if I can't find what I need there. But at least half the time I end up having to use Amazon because I can't find what I need.

It's probably a kind of vicious cycle: as Amazon eats further into profits of other companies they are more limited in what they can offer.

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