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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Verizon has already been unlocking after 6 months

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If I don't own my phone, then I'm not paying for it. Period.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Locked phones are what led me into the rabbit hole of purchasing phones from manufacturer, since the carriers not only lock phones but hobble the OS.

It did mean understanding what was necessary for a phone to qualify for given carriers, but I can tech when I need to, and I tech for my friends when they need it.

In 2024, T Mobile and AT&T (and Verizon) have all demonstrated they do not engage in good faith commerce, and so right now they're being sniveling little shits (quote me please) because the FCC and DoC are escaping regulatory capture.

That is to say, the end users are tired of their shit. Apple and Google, too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My T-Mobile phone that's been unlocked and moved over to Google Fi has the T-Mobile image whenever you start up the phone. I'll only buy phones directly from the manufacturer now.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"Narcissistic domestic abuser claims the exit doors that are locked from both sides are just for the protection of their spouse and its in their best interest to be secure"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

They shouldn't be locked at all. If the phone is included with the contract, it probably requires you to pay it off if you cancel early anyways.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Is there a technical term for when a company or corporation makes a statement that is a blatant bad faith argument like that?

If none exists, I'd call it "Corporate massturbation". Because they're trying to jerk everyone off.

Edit Here's another one: "Corporate Anal Ostriching." Because they're shoving their heads up their own asses

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Not even close.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If they are good, why then the Europe ended that practice nearly 2 decades ago?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

They must hate freedom!!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

and behold all of the terrible consequences!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's weird to see T-mobile taking this stance. I switched to them years ago because they were one of the few that supported unlocked phones, and even offered them for sale. Their policies might have changed on this, but I just bought an unlocked phone off Ebay this Summer and all I needed to do was pop my sim card into the new device. Hell I had to specifically install the visual voicemail app because there wasn't any bloatware on the phone when I got it. So I guess I'm not following what their complaint is about?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Every carrier lets you use an unlocked phone on their network

T-Mobile no longer lets you buy unlocked phones from them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

That's a shame to hear, but yeah they've certainly changed since I signed on. Not that I expect any other to be better at this point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

The US peasant is not tech savy enough to do what you do, they end up in some lop sided contract with a corpo parasite that attempts to make their lives uncomfortable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I remember their "Uncarrier" slogan and how they were doing things very differently from the big providers and even led to them doing away with contracts and such.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Newsflash: T-Mobile is a big provider. They took some standard European practices, also technology, and then pretended to be a small scrappy startup in the US until they had enough of a customer base to return to their usual monopolistic ways.

The only thing that keeps them half-way in check over here is forced unbundling: If you have network infrastructure you need to let other providers use it, at regulated prices. Which is really necessary as they inherited every single landline in the country from the old state monopoly.

Be glad that the postal service got broken up into telecoms, postal/parcel and banking before getting privatised if it hadn't it would be an absolute scourge on the world. Imagine them cross-financing such market takeovers with the additional resources from the largest logistics company in the world (DHL). Banking sector is less impressive right now Deutsche Bank doesn't know what to do with it. I have no idea why they even bother, they don't care about end-consumer banking there's no money in that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Wasn't that before they bought out Sprint, though?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fuck the lot of them. Shop around for the best deal that doesn’t try to screw you over.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

the term is MVNO, thats where you want to shop, folks. bring your own device too.

deny the parasite them profits.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

But if we unlock your phones from the start we lose control over you :( pwease

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Never buy a phone from your carrier, they will do some evil shit to try and force you to stay

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It was probably incompetence more than malice but T-Mobile customer service incorrectly told me multiple times that I was not allowed to pay off my phone balance early to unlock it. I'm on US Mobile now and I'll never go back to postpaid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

With Deutsche Telekom, never attribute to incompetence that which can be attributed to greed.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 5 days ago (8 children)

So the story is 'if they have to be unlocked, we can't offer discounts on the phones'.

Okay fine but uh, the last time I used a post-paid subsidized phone, I signed a contract. That stipulated how much I'd pay for however many months, and what the early cancellation fee was, as well as what the required buy-out for the phone was if I left early.

In what way is that insufficient to ensure that a customer spends the money to justify the subsidy?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Nono that wasn’t a service contract, it was a payment plan on the phone. And you can’t cancel the service until you pay off the phone.

It’s different…. Really….

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

That's exactly right. Users will have to purchase phones on credit like we do for every other major (and sometimes minor) purchase. This doesn't change the relationship between carriers and their customers at all. It only changes their accounting.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 days ago

It's just a lie. I don't think it's meant to hold up to scrutiny, it's just meant to be repeated.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ohh look a corpo has opinions about your property 🤡

Remember that nextime you pay for a subscription

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 5 days ago

"Taking away peoples freedom is whats best for users! It's the American way!"

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