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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Gee I fucking wonder why you have trauma and PTSD??? Fucking moronic fucks, zero sympathy

[–] [email protected] 174 points 1 week ago (1 children)

reminds me of this bit:

"not only will america go to your country and kill all your people but they'll come back 20 years later and make a movie about how killing your people made their soldiers feel sad."

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For context, this is from Frankie Boyle's 2016 Hurt Like You've Never Been Loved.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I got excited thinking there was DS9 content i hadn't seen

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Hadn't heard of this before but it looks pretty good

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How naive of me to think "That can't be a real article. Surely they wouldn't publish themselves saying they crushed living and dead people by the hundreds with an armored bulldozer. They must know how abhorrent, insane, and shocking that sounds. Right?"

No. Of course the worst excesses of violence which had never crossed my mind are being done by the IDF. I'm... I have no words.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I'm at a loss too. I was going to write something with the links but what can even be said.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i sincerely hope his actions haunt him for the rest of his pathetic life

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm pretty sure they did.

Six months after he was first sent to fight, he was struggling with post-traumatic stress disorder [...] Before he was due to redeploy, he took his own life.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Indoctrination is a hell of a drug.

Not saying these guys should be absolved, but they're doing this because they think they're the good guys/helping out.

We should be lamblasting their leadership and all of Israel's parliament that's enabling this.

But sometimes, soldiers are just soldiers/grunts. US Soldiers have similar PTSD after Afghanistan and Iraq. Not absolving them of sins, but when you're trained for most of your adult life to take orders and not question them, and then those orders include killing innocents, it's difficult to break from the indoctrination/control a group has had over you in the moment. Usually it's not until you're finished with your tour and you're back home and had time to decompress that you realize the horrors you witnessed and perpetuated.

Again, not justifying it in any way, but if we don't humanize Israeli soldiers, we run the risk of turning them into boogeymen like we did the Nazis. They were human too, and by not acknowledging that and how far humanity can go when they are supporting nationalist movements, we do great harm to any attempt to catch and correct these sort of things early.

There's no switch that gets flipped that turns people into monsters. The worst atrocities ever committed upon humanity were by other humans. We need to acknowledge that they're all human, or we risk repeating history.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

They made a choice, do not absolve people of what they are doing and continue to do, especially if it's fucking genocide, that's literally how these things happen as well as the Holocaust.

At some point, people have to stand up and say no, voice their concerns, and just simply do the right thing.

Literally read what you wrote, the world already did what you are scared about to the Palestinians and is continuing to do so, are you tone deaf?

How about we fucking Humanize Palestine

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Child murderer.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm actually speechless.

I hope this guy suffers until his end.

If you run over HUNDREDS with a BULLDOZER, you deserve permanent PTSD to prevent you from ever fucking thinking of doing anything remotely like it again

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I believe this particular quote is from a soldier who took his own life. How. Tragic.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Too bad about the order of operations

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

Let me go get my Planck length sized violin.

[–] [email protected] 284 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The last sentence is fucked up. If you're running over hundreds of people how in the fuck do you know they are terrorists. These people are intentionally and knowingly committing war crimes then come back home and cry about how this all made them so sad.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Anyone who runs is a terrorist anyone who doesn't run is a lazy terrorist.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago

Look at how well Israeli propaganda is working abroad. Now imagine how well it must be working on the israeli population.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 week ago

Anyone who runs is Hamas. Anyone who stands still is well disciplined Hamas.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ask Rachel Corrie, who was similarly run over by a bulldozer protecting Palestinian land. It's been over 20 years and the US still doesn't give a single shit about Israel murdering it's own citizens.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah I remember reading about her. She was an incredibly brave woman. The most horrifying part was reading about the IDF soldiers who had a pancake party to mock her death.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

was reading about the IDF soldiers who had a pancake party to mock her death.

Yeah, they've really got PTSD from what they do. /s

Give me a fucking break.

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If the IDF is killing people, then they are terrorists. Not the other way around. You are to be checked for antisemitism/glorification of terrorism. Please report to your nearest IDF bulldozer.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago

ah Israelis and playing the victim, name a more iconic duo.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One of the reasons for creating the system of death camps was that Nazi soldiers and policemen tasked with murdering Jewish people and other undesirables had elevated rates of PTSD. Also, during the Cultural Revolution, the People's liberation Army switched to a lower caliber sidearm because all the executions were giving them carpel tunnel.

You don't want to loose sight of humanity just because you're committing atrocity.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know that another driving force for the gas chambers was to preserve ammunition.

The earliest versions of gas chambers were essentially "piping truck exhaust into a building." They moved on from that in order to preserve metal (from the piping), fuel, and vehicles for other purposes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think they were using vans or buses, not filling buildings with carbon monoxide. Smaller spaces.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That doesn't seem very efficient if you want to gas dozens of people at once, which happened many times.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And yet, they still did it

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Maybe? I know for sure they were doing piping into a building early on.

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