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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

At the rate we're going all that will be left on X is EM and his 200 sockpuppets.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Taking a page out of Valves book.

Doing nothing and let the competition drive customers your way.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Not really what Valve did. Valve kept doing cool things that benefit the customer, while the competition actively drove them away.

I don't follow social media. Is BlueSky feature rich and only getting better?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's a lot of art, cats, and big tiddy cartoons. I haven't found anything too onerous in its UI, the community has a somewhat toxic level of positivity but that's certainly better than the general toxicity of most of the web these days.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the community has a somewhat toxic level of positivity

Could you elaborate?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well if you post something political you'll get a couple dozen replies telling you to "Leave that stuff at the other place".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

...that sounds amazing. Perhaps I should go investigate Bluesky, heh.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Its just an opinion piece, I’d take this with a grain of salt

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

This user is a troll FYI.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Bluesky is decentralized only in its name. And media storage.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

This isn't necessarily true. Just because their architecture is harder and not a simple server host does not strip away its decentralization.

They have decentralized the following:

  • App access (can build your own or show openProto posts in your platform

  • Algorithms

  • Relay (backend albeit rumored to be expensive)

  • More if you consider the domain name hosting stuff and media storage control. Also moderation is planned to be decentralized.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn't the only thing that really matters decentralised control?

Open protocols and APIs seem pretty meaningless to me if there's a single point of control for the brand.

If everyone migrates to bluesky and then bluesky says "of we're not doing that open thing anymore because of this new embiggened thing we're doing" everyone will still be on bluesky.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Open protocols and APIs seem pretty meaningless to me if there's a single point of control for the brand.

You'd need to expand on this more for me to understand you. Yes there's a single point of control from a moderation standpoint (labeler), as there is on Lemmy instances. But anyone can host their own ATProto relays and the Bluesky relay will federate with each other automatically.

If everyone migrates to bluesky and then bluesky says "of we're not doing that open thing anymore because of this new embiggened thing we're doing" everyone will still be on bluesky.

Not necessarily because the accounts are atProto accounts and you can migrate to another platform(albeit another doesn't exist yet) without data loss. As far as the Bluesky app goes it really just shows you atProto posts and hosts your data (similar to Lemmy instances) they as an entity just also maintain the OSS backend Relay crawler and more.

I really think a lot of people have this perspective that it's not decentralized just because it truly is a lot more complicated due to there being like 5 different moving pieces of decentralization (PDS, Relay, Appview, tbd labeler, algorithm) and they do a great job at obscuring it for regular users which is a great thing. And nobody has really tinkered around and set-up any sites or integrations with it yet. I'm personally trying to get a two way mastodon integration as it's possible but nobody has done a solid implementation (just somewhat gnarly bridges between protocols)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Better than the burning garbage inferno that is xitter.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I've been on Bluesky and Mastodon but I'm seeing people pretty happy with how less toxic it is on Bluesky.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

I mean at some point elon will buy bluesky, too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Toxicity drives engagement. Engagement means more ad views.

As long as profits are the motive it's a flawed design.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How? I'm mostly following mlp-related accounts on mastodon and don't see any toxicity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I haven't seen any toxicity on the server I'm on (https://mastodon.gamedev.place ) either. But I've seen people I follow complain about it in the past, and I trust them. Especially considering they left for Bluesky.

I think Mastodon users are more technical and blunt, drawing from the same stereotypes that people have (often fairly) thrown at nerdier people. We just need to keep that in mind. And maybe a good ad/explainer, given how many people bounce off the concept of federation and different servers.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Just wait until enough sane people have left Twitter; it'll then implode and the fascist Nazi shitheads will migrate.

They don't want an echo chamber- they want to be able to shout their slurs and right-wing bullshit at you while you can't respond. It's exactly why places like Voat and that shitty T_D knockoff crashed. Once the ratio of right-wingers to non-right-wingers on Twitter hits a critical amount, they'll start looking for other places to infest.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just wait

Dude. It's been 2 years. The people who were going to leave because of Elon already left.

I'm not saying the current twitter userbase 100% fully believe in his views, but I am saying that they're not leaving the platform over it.

Either they don't know about bluesky/mastodon, or they don't care enough to leave.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dude. Isn't truth worth billions?

I guess you're mostly right, but the exception is that they need one safe space in which to congratulate each other and wank about NFTs and what not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You mean Trump's Twitter clone? Depends on how you define "worth." The total stock valuation is worth that much, but that's because stocks are largely bullshit priced based on how buyers feel. Someone keeps buying the stock, so the price reflects that.

If you're talking about the company itself, it's not worth dick. They have a six or seven digit revenue compared to eight or nine digit losses- there is absolutely no way the stock price represents the "true" value of the company. Given that Trump owns 60% of the shares it's absolutely certain that someone is using it as a way to funnel money to Trump outside of campaign finance laws.

Also, they don't have that many users.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

At least Blue Sky supports community block lists. You can block every nazi with the click of a button

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah bro I wish they would keep to their own echochambers so they can become more and more radicalised and end up causing even more harm in the long run rather than at least having some if minimal exposure to normal fucking people /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The wolf ate our babies, let's go see hyenas.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

Glad to see people leaving X. I look forward to it’s end.

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