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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I used to work for Publix, a grocery chain in the south east US. They talk a big game to the new hires that no matter how high up you make it in the company, you're not too high to do the tasks of the entry level employees. You'll even see the CEO in some of the stores in Lakeland, Florida. I've always felt it was for show because all you'll ever see anyone in a management position do is bag groceries. There could be a dozen other tasks that need doing that would take priority, but don't worry, you have time to do those things because the guys making 6 figures are on bagger duty.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

The CEO of Publix is a piece of shit. Fuck that guy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A lot of those jobs require some form of training. What's the point of training everyone for every job?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I should've mentioned in my original post that Publix is a hires within company. Everybody including the current CEO started at an entry level position. Obviously no one person knows how to do everything, but all the top level employees ran their own department before running their own store, district, region, etc. Obviously I'm biased, my feelings toward the company are less than favorable after working there. It was just irritating to see someone who has made millions but somehow has the time to run to various stores and kick people off of bagging duty so they can pretend to look like down to earth upper management. It was my first hand experience to seeing just how unnecessary certain corporate positions really are

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Be real, how many jobs do you trust a suit to be able to figure out? Do you really want one of them behind an electric pallet jack?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

No, but cleaning up the disgusting public bathroom is doable

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A couple of night stock shifts would be good for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

"Oh you wanted a bonus this year CEO person? You're in luck, you can join the company pizza party!"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't mention in my original post but the company only hires within, meaning that every single person within the company started at an entry level position, many of them did operate pallet jacks. Every suit that did come and pretend to look like they were working hard did do that job at one point. I think that's what made it even more infuriating to me

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh cool, it’s the corporate version of those people who cosplay as homeless by “living on the streets” for a week

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

Or its to emphasise where you actually make your money. A lot of people in offices far away from where the money is earned end up making up convoluted versions of reality to fit their processes, applications and such. Making everyone do a day on the floor of the business emphasizes that this part of the business is key.

It can be done the right way too. My wife's company does something similar and it helps a lot with how the back office thinks of processes. They also are encouraged to use these informal contacts to check new things they imagine would be helpful. They have scrapped entire projects after collecting feedback and running fields tests this way. At the same time their front line feels they can actually provide feedback that is heard.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like it, but it won't work. All it will do is put people on edge for the day. Putting execs into a store silently for 2 weeks would be the way. Most of them would probably actually enjoy the breaks from their keyboard day to day. Many executives aren't the elite we see on the news, they're office middle management with high titles so negotiators think they're dealing with higher ups.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Putting execs into a store silently for 2 weeks would be the way.

So, basically that old undercover boss TV show?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty much, except give them zero authority over the store.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

So ... There's finally going to be some employees in there?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good. As an engineer in a factory I’m sometimes called to help meet a shipment (we’re not well run) and I stand by that if it wasn’t necessary it would be good. Leadership needs to understand the base level value add of a company

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In addition, I would like to see design engineers spend some time in the repair shop working on the things they are designing.

Maybe after they've burned their forearm a few times, things like putting the oil filter directly above the catalytic converter wouldn't happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

In my utopia, all engineers would need to prove that the factory service manual repair time estimate can be done by them.

This would make my life harder, but it’s necessary.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago

I used to work for a restaurant company that asked corporate staff to work in the restaurants one day per year plus clean the office kitchen once every six months. I've never seen so much non Union worker solidarity in opposition to these tiny tiny ass requests.

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