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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Sssoooooo… they can’t fathom that the millions that bought it aren’t the same people as the tens of millions that made fun of it?

How do these people run companies?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Didn't Xbox ask Bethesda to charge 10 as they were already selling themes for about that much?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

The people who pushed back against it, like myself, didn't buy the damn thing lol

Game sells millions of copies, but only a few tens of thousands of people online publicly spoke out about it. 🙄 Even in the largest spaces, the majority of us in forums and social media are barely a blip in the total number of people playing and buying things in the game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

People who evaluate things with a critical eye, and are willing to push back or act differently because of their evaluations are a miniscule minority among the masses. This is true for all areas, not just gaming.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Nesmith said he no longer remembers the exact sales figures for the add-on, but he remembers it being a lot. "It must have been in the millions, it had to be millions," he said.

So... No accounting for how many of these sales came from bundles/GOTY editions, and we are just going off his memory of the sales numbers?

Great reporting, this really vindicated Horse Armor's legacy...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Did you expect him to put in a request for that information with their archive accounting department for transactions from 18 years ago? Come on, man!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I didn't expect him to do anything. But does he expect anecdotal evidence provided without context to change my mind on horse armor? Come on man!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I stopped buying their trash after fallout 4 which was a decent game but kinda dated when it came out.

They keep trying to milk that formular while others moved forward

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

the entire base building system in 4 feels like a mod rather than part of the actual game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

That honestly is being too generous. I'd say it feels like an incomplete mod, because I usually have to add a mod to actually make the settlement system worth interacting with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

It certainly felt very tacked on. I never enjoyed having to interact with it, nor did it add anything to the story.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

People asked for it and Todd gave it to them 🤡

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

it’s giving “molyneux” in the worst way

[–] [email protected] 15 points 14 hours ago

I did not buy it, but thanks for introducing the cancer of microtransactions you jackass!

[–] [email protected] 50 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

'You're all making fun of it and yet you buy it'

No, those are two different groups. Gamers (tm) are not a monolithic block. Some like it, some hate it, some in between. To lump that all together is moronic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, and the most outspoken Gamers™ represent a minority. There's a reason studios don't pander to them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

Most Outspoken Gamers^tm^ nowadays don't even play the games they're being outspoken about. Look at all the clowns calling Ghost of Yotei "woke" for having a female protagonist when Tsushima already had multiple female warriors.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago

Outspoken Gamers™ are not a monolithic block either. That's the funny thing about people.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 15 hours ago

It was included with the game of the year edition, I wonder if that factors into the sales

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's a bad omen for TEVI

[–] [email protected] 16 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep. The type of people buying the horse armor are not the people who are complaining about what it means for a full priced game to have such and and the direction that pointed the company in. Given this is what he is talking about now, and not how they have lost their way and are working on delivering solid experience for players, unlike their last games, is telling.

But, I lost all hope for TES6 to be good when Starfield came out. Maybe I'll be wrong, hopefully I'll be wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe in five years, if (and only if) they keep working on it like No Man's Sky, then maybe Starfield might be redeemed.

But they've already fucked up by making the DLC paid. Until the game is playable, they should be reinvesting their original sales income. Otherwise they burn all the good will.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The game is very much playable, I have sunk 200+ hours into it and still have very much fun playing it. Not every game has to be for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Very true. I went in with perhaps unrealistic expectations and didn't enjoy the gameplay loop. When I enjoy a game, I really enjoy a game, with several titles having 1000+ hours.

Someone needs to introduce Bethesda to Markov chain based storytelling if they're going to use procedural generation. Anyway, I digress. I'm looking forward to Outer Worlds 2 ;)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Truly a watershed moment for the enshittification of microtransactions

[–] [email protected] 15 points 14 hours ago

That was one of the earliest console DLCs. They came out of the gate shitty.