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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But they own it. I thought even I could download a ROM if I have the actual game no?

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (23 children)

Just for the record, this is exactly what any museum would do, because they're not going to actually run anything on the original hardware. Those systems are part of the collection, and it behooves a museum to not put any wear on them.

Also because emulators can be managed remotely.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That is highly depending on the type of Museum. Many Videogame and Computer Museums (at least in Germany) are showing the real Hardware running, some are even allowing the visitors to use and play at the old machines. And yes, they are often very used to repairing the hardware too.

I would expect from Nintendo that they would show and use real hardware in their museum, and not some emulators. Because I can see the games on an emulator at home (for example using my Switch Online or my SNES Classic), I don't need a museum for that experience.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (17 children)

I know to be a certified museum in the US, you must work to preserve your articles in perpetuity, meaning anything that could be detrimental to the article is discouraged if not totally disallowed.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Plus you can do stuff like reset the emulator to a certain state pretty easily. Without having to reboot the hardware or anything. So you could do an exhibit on level 7 and have the game queued up to the level the exhibit is about.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I won't be buying a Switch 2 and if I can't pirate Nintendos games I won't play them. I refuse to reward them for their bad behavior. Like a little child who throws tantrums they belong in the time out area.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I really love those doofy detachable Joycons. However I have instead gone with the Steam Deck as it is open to the point of allowing custom OS and they advertise capability for DIY repairs.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they care if you won't buy their consoles or games anyways.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Anyway, what's the point of a museum of a console maker without showing original hardware?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's like saying what's the point of the air and space museum if they're not actually flying the planes.

They're not going to use the original hardware and put wear on them. That's a standard part of archiving.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

No it is more like saying "What is the point of going to an museum of art when all the paintings and statues are only photocopies and 3D printed replicas"

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can see Nintendo shutting down his own museum for piratery.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

John Nintendo, founder and CEO?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

The emulator they use for N64 on the Switch is also just one of the many options that com up when you Google "We can't be arsed reviewing our own assembler"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Nintendo: Emulation is illegal, criminal, and you should never ever do it. If you do, we will sue your ass, send the Pinks, and then shit fury on you!!!

Also Nintendo:


Needless to say, I will not be buying an alarm clock today.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (4 children)

That's not at all Nintendo's philosophy.

They literally included emulation starting with the wii

So it is more of a rules for thee but not for me situation. Not you should never ever do it but you should only do it on our hardware with our emulators

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, their position is that they as the rights holders can republish how they please, but that buying a cartridge does not give you license to play on other devices. You can disagree with them on legal or philosophical grounds but their position isn't really inconsistent.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I would not be at all surprised if the Switch NES and SNES emulators are running an open source emulator that they've tried to shut down.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

Throwback to the NES Classic ROM having a ripper/uploader’s signature in the game code. Because Nintendo didn’t ever bother archiving their own games, and just downloaded ROMs from the same sites they were trying to shut down.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I would. They would have been found out already if it were the case, and they already proved they can develop their own emulators.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Moreover, they're going to want an emulator that can be managed alongside the rest of the museum software.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They've been caught using ROMs downloaded from some ROMs download website, so it wouldn't be that surprising.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No they have not. If they dumped their own cartridge or had the ROM somewhere in their archives, it would be identical to one downloaded from the Internet. The whole controversy happened because someone saw the iNES headers in whatever release of Super Mario Bros was new at the time. Those headers are added by all NES cartridge dumpers, and the creator of this format developed the NES emulator used by Nintendo in Animal Crossing for the GameCube.

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