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I know the headline sounds funny, but remember that could kill a diabetic.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Put cocaine back in it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This was orange juice not coca cola zero (the headline is misleading)

If i have to guess the gymnic was that they add zero additional sugar (but oranges still have sugar).

While I hate these misleading names and i am in favour of this kind of actions; i suspect diabetic people are familiar with this BS and would have read the nutrition facts

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Lemonade, not orange juice. And no, it was a zero sugar lemonade, artificially sweetened, and they put sugar in it accidentally.

But I agree, the headline should have been worded better.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so they made it taste like shit for no reason

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I see you're familiar with the Coca-Cola company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Coke

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I thought the main danger to diabetics was not having sugar after taking insulin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Too high or too low can be dangerous, and there's different varieties of diabetes that make one or both swings more likely/dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's only a danger if they take too much insulin. Insulin is used by the body to make the cells absorb sugar.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I’m not 100%, but I’m pretty sure the issue is with restricted ability to use / produce insulin to regulate blood sugar thus leading to dangerously high levels.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Blood sugar can be too high as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sugar or high fructose corn syrup?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

HFCS is sugar. Just not cane sugar. And at the end of the day, sugar is sugar and we shouldn't be having it all the time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes but I like making cheap jabs at the drink industry.

On a serious note - you're absolutely right to avoid sugar, and I stopped drinking sweetened beverages many years ago. From what I understand though, people would develop fewer health problems if they consumed cane sugar instead of HFCS. Apparently the unbound fructose makes a difference when consuming sugar at such a high volume.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm afraid that HFCS and cane sugar affect your health equally.

https://www.popsci.com/high-fructose-corn-syrup-sugar/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Well that was an interesting rabbit hole. There have been a number of new studies in the past decade, and researchers are still investigating the effects of free fructose in sweeteners.

This study is fairly recent: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8188419/

This study notes how the actual amount of fructose varies from the expected amount in popular beverages: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0899900714001920

Every study I read continues to point out that sweeteners with free fructose taste sweeter and have negative health effects in large quantities while stating how results are inconclusive due to excessively caloric intake. I'm still skeptical of HFCS for now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Whew good thing I drink diet Dr Pepper!

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The recall was initiated on September 10…

Yay! An urgent thing that happened over a month ago! I sure am glad that people get timely notifications of these events.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fun story, the recent meat recall (the second one) affected some salads I bought early September.. we got an email long after we'd eaten them letting us know, and to call "this number" if you'd like a refund.

Sorry, I lied, it wasn't a fun story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You should just shit in a box and mail it to them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not quite sure how this would done in a timely-er fashion. Signage in the stores? In theory, anyone paying with plastic could have been contacted through the card company.

That would involve the manufacturer alerting the store, the store alerting all the various card companies, then the card companies alerting the customer. That's a lot of infrastructure to keep running and to do so fast enough that the customer finds out within a day or two of the recall.

Expensive. Worthwhile given the potential to save lives or hospital stays, but you know how companies are.

This would also involve admitting all your purchase history is collected and stored in a way that is not anonymized, which I don't think people would quite like to be explicitly told about.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In Germany, supermarkets typically post product recalls right on the doors or over the shelves of the section that has the affected products. I guess if you bought something you might be less likely to go down that aisle again next time and come across the sign, but (barring a big empty space at the entrance) I think that's the most reasonable place for them to be

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Same in Belgium and the Netherlands. On the stores website too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Do you ever find there are a lot of these signs at any given time? Having them in a designated area by the entryway then maybe again by the shelf where they stock it seems like a good combination.

In my head I worry it might become overwhelming to the point no one reads them anymore. Though I suppose that could be mitigated with a large image of the recalled product, to make it easier to check at a glance without having to stop and read for a minute. I can't remember ever seeing signage at the shops near me. I wish we had that.

Maybe I'm overthinking it and it's a rarity to ever have more than a couple products be recalled at a single time. Can't say I've put much thought into any of this before.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They're not super common. I don't see one every single time I go grocery shopping, though I would say typically there are maybe one or two recalls posted somewhere in the store at a time. Most I've seen at once is four, maybe a year or so ago, but they also keep the signs up for a few weeks so they didn't happen all at once.

They do always have either a picture of the product or at least the name prominently placed, so you can glance at it to see whether it's about something you might have bought.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

in my experience, it is rare to see two recalls at the same time in the same store. and yes, there usually is a rather large picture of the product. standard size paper (din a4) where the top half is a picture and the bottom half a description of the recall with info as to why and which batch numbers are affected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Ah okay, I like that implementation. Good to have it be eye-catching and not just a bunch of text. Thanks for letting me know.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I never even mentioned alerting individual customers. The publication date on the story is TODAY. We can certainly do better than that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I understood that from your comment. I wasn't contradicting you or challenging what you said, just wondering aloud how we might go about it and pointing out some flaws in my own point.

That said, even if this article was published the day of the recall, I imagine only a minority of the affected purchasers would ever see it. I couldn't say I've ever looked at a recipes website to inform me of important consumer news.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This might possibly be the most civil, respectful misunderstanding I’ve ever seen. I appreciate it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Par for the course with online discussions, I'd say. Always difficult to discern the tone of a comment when it's written down. No harm done.

Cheers!

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