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Not everyone runs on moral superiority.
You think the car industry needs saved? How so? Gas or electric, there's never been a lull in people purchasing cars. Quite the opposite, most of the time. It's not like cars were on a production decline before ev's started rolling in and saved the day with the few percentage of car shoppers buying them.
Honestly moral superiority needs to get taken out of climate change as a whole. It's a global issue that needs political solutions. Nobody's individual actions are gonna change their nation's heating systems from gas, grids energy make up to solar, or billionaires to climate activists.
@houseofleft @ByteOnBikes political solutions in democracies occur when the consensus flips from one view to another: the individual action needed is to reduce your own #carbonfootprint as best you can, discuss your views sensitively with family and friends and vote. Societal attitudes change quite quickly, eg acceptance of same-sex marriages, so there is no reason why attitudes towards the #climatecatastrophe may not shift favourably and drive political change
so says br***sh petroleum anyways, straight up complete ahistorical bullshit, actually learn some history just once just fucking once, acid rain didnt get fucking fixed because "CoNsUmErS dEcIdEd To Be ReSpOnSiBlE aNd StOoPeD bUyInG tHiNgS wHiCh ReSuLtEd In SuLfUr PoLlUtIoN" it got fixed because governments around the world pushed by organized demands from working people lead by scientists made it illegal to not use filters that would capture the sulfur, the ozone hole, remember that? u know how it got fixed it fucking wasnt because "CoNsUmErS dEcIdEd To Be ReSpOnSiBlE aNd StOoPeD bUyInG tHiNgS wItH oZoNe EaTiNg ReFrIgErAnTs In ThEm" it was solved because governments were forced by the people to issue policy that banned the use of such refrigerant. And the story is the same with water, and air pollution, and with basically everything else.
But now when it comes to the most important fight for our survival and the preservation of our environment were are supposed each individually do our bit and buy the right thing, FUCK OFF with ur fossil fuel propaganda, we will NEVER win this fight if we are reduce to mere "CoNsUmErS".
Yes, for sure!! I hope my call for policitcal action didn't come across as "don't do anything and wait for politicians to sort it out!".
I was trying to get at the need for collective discussion and action, over the idea of a climate change fix that's based on people's feeling superior for their individual actions, especially because without political change, a lot of even the individual changes we need to make (more heatpumps, EVs over ICEs, etc) are only accessible to those with sufficient wealth.
The car industry didn't want EVs. Much of it still doesn't
Hey boys, we've got a representative for the car industry over here who knows all their secrets!
Come on kaffiene, spill the tea! Is the car industry behind Team NSYNC, or all about Team Backstreet Boys??
Oddly enough your sarcasm doesn't motivate me to comment. Google is available
No company in the world supports neither EV nor anything eco-friendly and if there ever is it won't last because of corporate greed
They prefer EVs over public transport.
Yeah, that's true
Cars, car infrastructure, people preferring to live far out and drive to work -- those are choices that can be made individually and collectively in a society-respecting way.
Driving an ICE car is a choice that affects the entire planet. When you do that, you're doing something immoral no matter what.
Driving electric essentially illuminates the most immoral aspect of the entire driving your car thing. It is a moraly superior choice, and you should feel good about it.
And now that we removed "if we all drive the world will end" from the discussion, we can in a civilized manner discuss and decide how many cars and where do we want.
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Oh, sorry, this is lemmy, lemme quickly correct myself: burn every Tesla you see to stick it to the billionaires! Revolution starts today!
It's funny that you accidentally brought up a more interesting point. If we decided that every adult in the world should own a car, starting tomorrow, there would be massive problems with resources such as gasoline, roads, batteries, electricity. It really would not scale up very well.
Tesla is a military industrial complex company that uses tax dollars to fund their operations and keeps all the profits themselves. They then use the profits to these cars to lobby against public transit.
...wtf does Tesla have to do with the military industrial complex? Are you just saying words?
We need hydrogen cars and carless cities
The flag in your username made me pause. On some other social media it meant hindu nationalist, love that here it means you like NetBSD lol.
Yup it's NetBSD flag :)
People aren't going to switch to something that costs a ton more to fuel and has fewer fill up locations. It doesn't have any advantages over gas other than being low emissions, and that's not enough to get people to switch. And electric only takes a bit longer nowadays to fill up.
buying a tesla feeds the orange
To paraphrase Alan Fisher, electric cars fail to solve the biggest problem with cars: The fact that they're still cars.
Buy Tesla's what?
Tesla's thinking duh
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