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Trump plan for Madison Square Garden rally compared to infamous Nazi event
(www.theguardian.com)
can't wait for the empty seats pics
this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2024
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Don't call Trump a Nazi the rhetoric is going to get him killed!
Lol says the party that directly caused j6 and threats in Springfield.
Fuck this rhetoric angle they literally love trump because he talks like they do. He started normalizing this speech. So you first Nazi fuck. Deescalate do it.
Dw América seems to LOVE the "deescalate by escalating" doctrine. They're gonna love the civil war remake.
There are other creepy parallels to Nazi propaganda techniques, like the flypast and morbid fixation with the death of adherents. The main difference seems to be that trump is less competent and in terminal decline before he achieves his goal. At least Hitler was compos mentis during the lead up to the seizure of power. By the time he completely lost his shit Germany at large was also fucked.
I don't think they can segment this venue down small enough to make this thing look full for him. Is he really sure this is what he wants?
I'm shocked MSG had an opening and allowed them to book it kinda knowing they'd get stiffed...
...unless the owners are rapid enough thinking that they'd be been beneficiaries if the orange turd sleezes his way back into office
Oh, they have clever accountants that can figure out a way to make a nice tidy loss out of the event. Hell, I'm not that clever and I can do it (I may be the fanciest accountant in my county, but it's a small county).
Am I missing something? This is a major venue that has hosted the DNC and the RNC. What's the story??
I second this. I really don't understand what exactly is different in a rally there compared to anywhere else.
Yeah, this is like the least nazi thing he's done this week.
Repubs are mad that the terrorists they radicalized are going after their racist demagogue.
So... will gangsters be waiting outside of this one too?
Is it still rhetoric if it's accurate?
I hope they ask for the money up front.
If they do that, he'll cancel it. So, I'm with you on this one.
Why are they complaining about him wasting time in a state that will go blue?
I agree, and I can't believe I'm saying this - because the Republicans are unequivocally going full Nazi, BUT
Republicans are doing crazy Nazi shit all the time. Yeah, the date has significance to American Nazis, and normally anything Nazi would have been publically perceived bad pre-Trump.
Even then, the Nazi accusations are often poorly executed and come off more as "EvErYoNe On ThE rIgHt Is A nAzi" and less "You are being categorically lied to, and if you vote Republican you will be irreversibly enslaved by the business class"
But we are so far past Republicans dancing around Nazism that complaining about sharing a Nazi date/location isn't going to make anyone clutch their pearls and see clearly.
Trump and the Republicans going full Nazi doesn't have much impact to the American population because
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There are no consequences to being a punk ass Nazi bitch if you're Republican, it's actually a pre-requisite now.
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No one is producing content to accurately show the Republican path to Nazism, the parallels, the significance, and the danger. No mention of union riots and former working conditions in the US, nothing.
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Both political parties are entirely beholden to the donor class who is warming up to Nazism, which is why the Anti-Nazi rhetoric is only done in small, insignificant doses instead of a competent national Anti-Nazi campaign so Democrats have plausible deniability that they warned the public.
People aren't threatened by Trump and will vote for him because America doesn't tolerate traitors, and if anything Democrats said about Trump is true, surely he would be Jailed in Guantanamo Bay by now.
Total lack of consequences = evidence of innocence, so anything you say against Trump is hand-waved away because if anything was wrong/bad it wouldn't be allowed.
This logic made Trump untouchable so far.
I disagree with the second point becuase Robert Evans and his Cool Zone Media podcast network and other notable Cracked alum Cody Johnston and Katy Stoll are both producing great content that does just that, but they are niche and the folks that need to listent to them most will dismiss their mediums and youth.
Highly reccomend Evans's 100% free audiobook The War on Everyone
Yeah, the date has significance to American Nazis
I seem to be lacking this piece of information. Why is this date significant?
a few thousand people might attend the local event, but hundreds of millions of people will see it or read about it. they'll still be yapping about it when they paint new york state blue on the map at 9:01pm eastern on election day.
It's about the headline .... it's always about the headline
Well some of the criticism is from Republicans too
Super critical while they vote for Donald Trump anyway.