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Kamala Harris’s running mate urges popular vote system but campaign says issue is not part of Democrats’ agenda

Tim Walz, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, has called for the electoral college system of electing US presidents to be abolished and replaced with a popular vote principle, as operates in most democracies.

His comments – to an audience of party fundraisers – chime with the sentiments of a majority of American voters but risk destabilising the campaign of Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential candidate, who has not adopted a position on the matter, despite having previously voiced similar views.

"I think all of us know, the electoral college needs to go," Walz told donors at a gathering at the home of the California governor, Gavin Newsom. "We need a national popular vote. We need to be able to go into York, Pennsylvania, and win. We need to be in western Wisconsin and win. We need to be in Reno, Nevada, and win."


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[–] [email protected] 137 points 7 months ago (22 children)

but campaign says issue is not part of Democrats’ agenda

Fucking hell! Every time either of them says something truly based, some DNC lackey comes and spoils it by saying that! 🤬

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I think at this point pretty much everyone I've ever talked to thinks the electoral college is bullshit. Even my dad and he's a trumper.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It makes sense to exist... In the 40's.
But with modern day society and how small the world has become, it makes no sense to me to still exist tbh..

[–] [email protected] 55 points 7 months ago (1 children)

1840s. It existed to preserve slavery

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cool. Not going to happen, but…. Cool.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, it's a hopeless quest. Truly eliminating the EC would require 3/4 of state legislatures, an almost impossible task when the majority of states would be effectively voting against their self-interest.

Effectively neutering the EC only requires that the states with 50% of the EC votes agree to follow the national popular vote. But, it would be a fragile detente, since any state legislature could back out and break it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

It still sends a message. Which in and of itself is good.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The electoral college is good for one thing and one thing only: boosting confidence that election fraud in one place won't impact the result of the election.

Winner takes all was always stupid and needs to be replaced with proportional allocation, preferably with a more direct ratio to the actual population of votes. Basically, everyone doing what Nebraska and Maine do.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's also really good for making sure that whoever wins the most acres of land gets a huge electoral boost. Because that's important.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

what if we make a compromise on the land area, say 3/5?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I wish Walz was at the top of the ticket.
I'd eagerly vote for him, as opposed to skeptically voting for Harris.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My hope is that she chose him, so she likes him, maybe for the same reasons we do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (6 children)

When she was in the senate she was statistically the closest to Bernie in voting.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (3 children)

While I agree with him, it’s also a stupid thing to say out loud during the election when they’re CLEARLY trying to sway moderate and uneasy right leaning voters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

His comments – to an audience of party fundraisers – chime with the sentiments of a majority of American voters

I guess you missed this bit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And they've been loosing the left this whole time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But if we take the high road once more, surely the voters will see the light!

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I think the electoral college has become pretty unpopular with pretty much everyone except committed republicans in recent years

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's become unpopular with everyone except the people who originally demanded it so they could count their slaves as 3/5 of a vote.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

not the undecided swing state voters.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

with the amount of money being spent to woo swing state voters I feel like being an "undecided voter" is some kind of career at this point

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Exactly, the result is decided but free starts and for example Republicans in California and New York feel their vote doesn't matter at all.

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