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Immediately asking for sources instead of simply looking outside of ones tankie echochamber for a change...
Also, that sealion comic comes to mind.
Bro im one if the biggest anti tankies here. Tankies aren't in favor of Israel, they say "Israel is imperialism and must be abolished so we can see all the jews die just as daddy Stalin wanted"
At best im a social Democrat, i literally told the OP to go make himself a lemmygrad account spitting terrorist propaganda.
That guy is not a tankie tho? Do you have some actual proof he is tankie?
He is just an Israel shill and a genocide apologist.
Loves running around fediverse endlessly crying about "antisemetism" while promoting killing Palestinians.
Classic Israeli supporter.
I am admittedly being lax with the definition, but they are certainly defending an authoritarian state and their atrocities committed in service of an ideological state project.
but they are certainly defending an authoritarian state and their atrocities in service of an ideological state project.
that's just a generic authoritarian. tankie specifically shill perverted version of communism based on Lenin/Stalin/Mao, excusing their crimes and glorifying history of USSR as something that was good.
They do side with Palestinians on this issue, mainly because Israel is supported by Imperial US.
Idk, I guess I don't see the point of the distinction, they're both still defending authoritarian atrocities along ideological lines.
Unless the point is that they're nominally communist and that somehow makes them uniquely or especially bad?
If that's the case then it more seems like we're being selectively critical of communism, not authoritarianism.
Mainly because "the jews sided with the capitalist" Stalin literally committed a second holocaust and pushed the "anti imperialism" theory where Israel is a colonial state and shit like that, most people in Israel are natives or refugees that have feed other countries where they haven't been save anymore. There is a reason why the only jews in middle-east are in Israel or in their Army/Government
I thought tankies generally liked to point out the hypocrisy of the Western "rules based order" and generally took the side of Palestine or even Hamas in this conflict?
This looks like garden variety hasbara to me.
Yeah shure the jews are behind everyone defending Israel with facts... Questionable way of thought but mind to explain?
I am with this person on this
not defending the 40k number by any means because no one really can source its information correctly, but the reason why a decent chunk of the deaths in palestine are children is because the average age of Palestinians is very low (~18), so in terms of wiping various buildings down via explosives statistically speaking, there will be people under 18 in that explosion.
how many of them are under 10 will be a TBD state till after the conflict, but its definitely reasonable to assume a chunk of minors died in the conflict simply by law of averages and how the targeting is done.
No he can not, some people keep making up numbers, there are no independent reports, actual evidence shows that the Gaza ministry of health numbers are almost certainly made up https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers
They also include hamas fighters as civilians and people being starved to death by Hamas as Israels fault. https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/palestinian-territories/1702285314-caught-on-camera-hamas-terrorists-steal-humanitarian-aid-beat-civilians https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/24/nyregion/hamas-gaza-aid-unrwa-lawsuit.html
Oh and its a fact that a organization on democratic values wich is majorly run by undemocratic and antisemitic people (most countries in UN are not democracies and most of these not democracies are obviously antisemitic) its also a fact that UN doesn't even do its job, hezbolla isn't allowed im the south, as per UN security Council resolution.
As you can see they are where they cannot be, and they are there to kill jews.
Oh BTW, did you know that hezbolla and Hamas use child soldiers and strap explosives to children? Isis did that as well, the Taliban also, ask some veterans from these wars, they are all over the world and will approve that.
there are no independent reports, actual evidence shows
Wait, there's something wrong with this but I just can't put my finger on it
No independent sources for total numbers.
Clear Evidence that hamas is making up numbers.
See how it works when you work with facts and evidence?
I said it before, the education in "midwest" might be lacking geopolitics and history.
Might be easier to have independent sources if Israel let them in without shooting them?
I can't put my finger what is going on here... but are we moving definition of a child to under 10?
Also, is it acceptable to that half of dead are children if half of Gaza are under 18?
This is weird ass comment lol
There are a bunch of reasons why the death toll is so hard to pin down, but a big one is that Israel has been denying access to Gaza for most journalists, as well as a suspiciously high death rate among journalists who have been allowed in. The few that are allowed inside are escorted by the IDF and aren't allowed to venture outside their supervision.
That said, the most recent reporting from Gaza suggests that the official numbers are being wildly under reported, and could be as high as 118,908 or greater.
All of which is utterly unsurprising, considering the vast majority of bomb targets have been civilian buildings and infrastructure (Hamas is always lurking somewhere inside, apparently), and that ~60% of Gaza has been damaged or completely destroyed.