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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Idk, I guess I don't see the point of the distinction, they're both still defending authoritarian atrocities along ideological lines.

Unless the point is that they're nominally communist and that somehow makes them uniquely or especially bad?

If that's the case then it more seems like we're being selectively critical of communism, not authoritarianism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The distinction matters, that's why it's a whole separate word.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

We it certainly does seem to matter a lot to capitalists, i'll give you that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

tankie is has a specific meaning, ie a communist who will enforce his will with a barrel of the tank, refering when USSR invaded its EE satellites to prevent popular liberalization.

what makes them bad is justifying state violence.

communism is a separate topic from the tankie imho. they are just parasites shilling foreign state actors narratives or larping because life in williamsburg is too good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

ie a communist who will enforce his will with a barrel of the tank

Sure, but how is that meaningfully different than a Zionist enforcing his will with a barrel of a tank?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Zionists don't enforce their will with the barrel of a tank. They protect their nation with the barrel of a tank. Big difference.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Ya know what, you're right, that's exactly what this looks like now that you mention it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tankie pretends to follow the Marxist-leninist school of thought... however, they are not very good at actual marxism, they prefer that hard metal style communism and propaganda.

Israelis pretend to follow the old bible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We might disagree on what counts as meaningful.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Maybe so but you misID'ed this person so i am providing you with the context.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bro being on this community and not even understanding what a tankie is...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Yeah, you seem to have found the fitting emoji for yourself, maybe make it your pfp.