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Tankie preemptively dismissing evidential reporting from UN findings about Gaza by suggesting they are antisemitic
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That guy is not a tankie tho? Do you have some actual proof he is tankie?
He is just an Israel shill and a genocide apologist.
Loves running around fediverse endlessly crying about "antisemetism" while promoting killing Palestinians.
Classic Israeli supporter.
I am admittedly being lax with the definition, but they are certainly defending an authoritarian state and their atrocities committed in service of an ideological state project.
that's just a generic authoritarian. tankie specifically shill perverted version of communism based on Lenin/Stalin/Mao, excusing their crimes and glorifying history of USSR as something that was good.
They do side with Palestinians on this issue, mainly because Israel is supported by Imperial US.
Idk, I guess I don't see the point of the distinction, they're both still defending authoritarian atrocities along ideological lines.
Unless the point is that they're nominally communist and that somehow makes them uniquely or especially bad?
If that's the case then it more seems like we're being selectively critical of communism, not authoritarianism.
The distinction matters, that's why it's a whole separate word.
We it certainly does seem to matter a lot to capitalists, i'll give you that.
tankie is has a specific meaning, ie a communist who will enforce his will with a barrel of the tank, refering when USSR invaded its EE satellites to prevent popular liberalization.
what makes them bad is justifying state violence.
communism is a separate topic from the tankie imho. they are just parasites shilling foreign state actors narratives or larping because life in williamsburg is too good.
Sure, but how is that meaningfully different than a Zionist enforcing his will with a barrel of a tank?
Zionists don't enforce their will with the barrel of a tank. They protect their nation with the barrel of a tank. Big difference.
Ya know what, you're right, that's exactly what this looks like now that you mention it
Tankie pretends to follow the Marxist-leninist school of thought... however, they are not very good at actual marxism, they prefer that hard metal style communism and propaganda.
Israelis pretend to follow the old bible.
We might disagree on what counts as meaningful.
Maybe so but you misID'ed this person so i am providing you with the context.
Bro being on this community and not even understanding what a tankie is...
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Yeah, you seem to have found the fitting emoji for yourself, maybe make it your pfp.
Mainly because "the jews sided with the capitalist" Stalin literally committed a second holocaust and pushed the "anti imperialism" theory where Israel is a colonial state and shit like that, most people in Israel are natives or refugees that have feed other countries where they haven't been save anymore. There is a reason why the only jews in middle-east are in Israel or in their Army/Government
what are you relying on to make this claim?
The 100 million dead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union
Its not just the German Nazis that hated the jews, actually all of the world hated and most still hate them. The Nazis where just the worst so far by putting it on industrial scale "extermination camps" (the actual translation for Concentration camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau, in German they where called "Vernichtungslager")
so this shit again...
Stalin kills millions of people but has anyone thought about the jews 🤡
What? The Nazis also killed many others i seriously don't get your bullshit here. Everyone with a little history literacy knows about the holodomor, or what the Soviets did to eastern Europe in general, there are literally reports that the average person was better off under the fucking Nazis, im not going to judge on that im not from that time gladly. Whats your point here?
That while antisemitism within USSR was a thing, it never amount to outright ethnic persecution unless you going to talk pruges of 1930s. But those purges had nothing to do with with victims being jewish or otherwise, Stalin was just disposing of useful idiots after they did his dirty jobs such as holodomor.
bottom line, it was hardly "a second holocaust"
100,000 Jews were killed in pogroms between 1918 and 1921. And yes, the purges were absolutely about Jews. They just hid their antisemitism by focusing on Zionism as the target (sound familiar?). But it was nothing but good old antisemitism: The Jews are a threat to Communist Russia because they're greedy cosmopolitan capitalists.
On the off chance that you're just ignorant:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin_and_antisemitism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors%27_plot
Let's just say that it was fortunate that Stalin died before he could execute the final steps of his plans.
Its not worth it to argue with a person that is either unable to read, has a very selective perception of reality or is trolling.
same response:
you have not provided evidence for your claim besides wiki that does not provide evidence to support the crime of genocide as it would be defined under international law.
🤦 I think you are just trolling.
you have not provided evidence for your claim besides wiki that does not provide evidence to support the crime of genocide as it would be defined under international law.
Im not im literally anti communist.
So you're auth-right then?