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Tankie preemptively dismissing evidential reporting from UN findings about Gaza by suggesting they are antisemitic
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not defending the 40k number by any means because no one really can source its information correctly, but the reason why a decent chunk of the deaths in palestine are children is because the average age of Palestinians is very low (~18), so in terms of wiping various buildings down via explosives statistically speaking, there will be people under 18 in that explosion.
how many of them are under 10 will be a TBD state till after the conflict, but its definitely reasonable to assume a chunk of minors died in the conflict simply by law of averages and how the targeting is done.
No he can not, some people keep making up numbers, there are no independent reports, actual evidence shows that the Gaza ministry of health numbers are almost certainly made up https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers
They also include hamas fighters as civilians and people being starved to death by Hamas as Israels fault. https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/palestinian-territories/1702285314-caught-on-camera-hamas-terrorists-steal-humanitarian-aid-beat-civilians https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/24/nyregion/hamas-gaza-aid-unrwa-lawsuit.html
Oh and its a fact that a organization on democratic values wich is majorly run by undemocratic and antisemitic people (most countries in UN are not democracies and most of these not democracies are obviously antisemitic) its also a fact that UN doesn't even do its job, hezbolla isn't allowed im the south, as per UN security Council resolution.
As you can see they are where they cannot be, and they are there to kill jews.
Oh BTW, did you know that hezbolla and Hamas use child soldiers and strap explosives to children? Isis did that as well, the Taliban also, ask some veterans from these wars, they are all over the world and will approve that.
40K is the official figure based on body count is my understanding, the actual number is deff above, we just don't know how much. Israel is not permitting access and bulldozing shit left and right to cover up the real numbers as we speak.
real number or something statistically close will need to be calculated without a body count. that's a feature of the genocide thing... if you think about it.
started with 2million so like 80-100k 4-5% dead is my guess so far.
Its not you are spreading Desinformation the "official number" is the number the hamas ministry of propaganda made up. Imagine being stupid enough to believe that shit.
this is what american fake news is reporting lol
trust me... this is the lowest regime whores could go before going full 🤡 status.
so 40k is the lowest... time will tell what the true number is but it sure as fuck aint going down nor stopping.
Wait, there's something wrong with this but I just can't put my finger on it
No independent sources for total numbers.
Clear Evidence that hamas is making up numbers.
See how it works when you work with facts and evidence?
I said it before, the education in "midwest" might be lacking geopolitics and history.
Might be easier to have independent sources if Israel let them in without shooting them?
Ah yes shure! Funny that CNN WAS with Israel (IDF) and didn't come back because the situation was to hot for them.
But again "the jews kill our journalists" shure bro, shure.
Lmao, they only were allowed to go while being escorted by the IDF, and were only invited because they're already a pro-isreal rag. They might as well have been Tucker Carlson getting a tour around Moscow
By the same standard aljazeera is an independent news org.
I can't put my finger what is going on here... but are we moving definition of a child to under 10?
Also, is it acceptable to that half of dead are children if half of Gaza are under 18?
This is weird ass comment lol
There are a bunch of reasons why the death toll is so hard to pin down, but a big one is that Israel has been denying access to Gaza for most journalists, as well as a suspiciously high death rate among journalists who have been allowed in. The few that are allowed inside are escorted by the IDF and aren't allowed to venture outside their supervision.
That said, the most recent reporting from Gaza suggests that the official numbers are being wildly under reported, and could be as high as 118,908 or greater.
All of which is utterly unsurprising, considering the vast majority of bomb targets have been civilian buildings and infrastructure (Hamas is always lurking somewhere inside, apparently), and that ~60% of Gaza has been damaged or completely destroyed.
You should study the Warsaw uprising. That's the situation in Gaza. Everybody knows somebody in Hamas or affiliated with Hamas. Because Israel effectively sealed off the strip and closed all of The crossings years ago, the only way to get goods in and out is underground tunnels that lead into Egypt. Those tunnels are owned, operated and controlled by Hamas. This forced necessary daily goods to be moved underground through those tunnels as well. That commerce enriches Hamas. It also makes them indispensable to the community. So there is a large amount of the population that deals with them on a weekly or daily basis. Not all of them are fighters but they're all affiliated. Israel has mostly forced them into that situation. So yes they are firing on Hamas members. However, they also forced a large amount of those people to become Hamas members. It's a real damned if you do damned if you don't situation because you're an acceptable casualty. If you're a bystander and they hit someone that is a Hamas member.
Which is why the only way to ever start unfuck this situation is to provide an economic base and opportunities for the people there some magical organization to provide employment in education and not be biased to the population and not to be influenced or run by Hamas or its affiliates. If only there was a super rich oil Nation right there that believes in most of the same things as the people in Palestine that could help their brothers out.
No, what's happening in Gaza is nothing like the Warsaw Uprising.
Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. Pulled out every single soldier and uprooted 9000 settlers. The people of Gaza responded to that act of good faith by putting Hamas in charge. Hamas violently overthrew their political rivals, murdered them all, and then began launching rockets into Israel. That's why Israel implemented a blockade and fenced the place in. And Oct 7, 2023, was a demonstration of exactly why that was necessary. That attack would have happened much earlier and on a much larger scale if there were no blockade in place.
That's just not true, i was in gaza before the war, there was a fucking luxury car shop, they had everything and lived like normal people shure, not as good as in Israel but that was the fault of hamas and you for shure where able to cross the fucking border, many Palestinians worked in Israel.
What you are saying is absolutely mind-blowing amounts of bullshit. Those tunnels where only used by hamas and mostly for weapons.
Also, most people have family members that are hamas terrorists, a large proportion of the people in Gaza hate them but at the same time are afraid to be killed by them.
Stop spreading lies.