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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

they dont park cars. They crush them and build new ones when they want to go somewhere

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well this guy’s apparently never been to Germany, they do in fact have a lot of parking garages and street parking in cities. Is straight up lying how you’re going to convince people to build public transit?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Of course there is some parking, but there is no need for a dedicated car park for this market. Many of these people will have come on foot or by public transport, that isn't a lie at all. Public transport in Germany isn't exactly a model to follow imo (I was surprised, I expected it to be down to an art tbh), but like most of Europe the cities are walkable and at least have some form of public transport system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I was surprised, I expected it to be down to an art tbh

The Nazis were so fucking good at propaganda. People still believe the "Germans are so efficient and good at everything" today, it's wild

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Completely off topic, but can anyone pinpoint this Christmas market? Looks hella cozy, but I don't recognize the buildings around it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I'd say that's the Striezelmarkt in Dresden (Germany's oldest Christmas market over 580 years old) but the big ones kinda all look like that.

By the way that's what they have to say about the posts topic on their website: "best accessibility: local public transport, on foot and by bike"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When I lived in Germany for a while, my wife and I took a train across the country one winter to Munich for the Christmas markets. We stayed in a hostel and walked the streets, enjoying the various stalls. I'd never heard of Glüwein before (hot, mulled, spiced red wine), but it was fantastic! It was an amazing experience and we didn't have to worry about parking lots or figuring out public transportation. Everything was within walking distance and we ended up touring all of Munich on foot.

I wish the US would get off its ass and get some high speed trains set up. We just need to keep oil and auto dealers out of the discussion because they keep shutting it down. Like Musk's "Hyperloop" project, which he proposed to stop legislation from approving high speed trains, but then intentionally did nothing with, so we just don't develop trains to replace his Tesla cars.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

High speed trains should actually not be the primary focus of the US when it commes to public transport, city/suburban systems are more important.

Don't get me wrong, the US absolutely needs high speed rail, but without a well functioning local public transport system at both ends you end up with something that conceptually is more like an airport than a european train station.

Without local public transport, travelers still need to go by car to and from the endpoints, just like a lot of airports, this means that stations will require a lot of expensive parking, that is essentially wasted space.

Now, the US will probably allways be car dependant to a higher degree than Europe, this is due to how cities have been built, unchecked urban sprawl with little mixed use zones with few central spots makes it hard to build good metro and bus lines, where do you put the stations, where will people connect?

I won't pretend to have the answers, I absolutely don't, but I know that regardless of how public transport is established in new and existing neighbourhoods there will be angry people, but lets just make sure that the happy people outnumber them

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This reminds me of that AskHistorian thread of someone asking where people parked their chariots when Roman citizens went to the coliseum.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Heh. Their palanquin or litter would drop them off and go sit in an alley or street somewhere, probably. Like how carriages in later centuries would.