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[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

I've been on Steam since 2005, and the only thing that sucks about Valve is that their steam sales are shit now. Other than that I've had no issues with them. They seem like a decent company.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

There's also the gambling, and the 30% cut that allows them to make $3.5 million per head.

Steam is pushing the industry forward on Linux support though, so they have my support.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Other thing that is questionable is gambling, apparently lot of people get into online casino through CS.

I think the culture surrounding DoTa to a lesser extend is not good too

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

genre defining design, literal decades ahead of the rest of the industry

Half-Life? What's that? I'm talking about Team Fortress 2 hats

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I've been steaming for that long as well!!!

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

Weird how if you pay the people activly invested in a product things work rather than having to awnser to why line no go up

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Wonder how much of this comes from the gambling business. They don’t own the secondary market where you can sell skins, but they are the gateway into that world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

They do own a big part of the secondary market. For steam marketplace, they get a cut of those sales too.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

I suspect a fair chunk. Steam for gamers and devs is great and all but its underbelly of opening up the world of gambling to kids is real gross. Its insane how valve has been getting away with it for so long.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Valve is the living proof that you can have great service and still be profitable. Will capitalists learn? No

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why have great service and be profitable when you can have terrible service and be 1.6% more profitable?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Correction: Be just as profitable but cash out on that profit slightly sooner.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

More like far less profitable over years, but far more this quarter. And when it inevitably goes south because you're squeezing too hard? Who cares, on to the next company!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Showing the importance of sustainable business models over the throw your entire budget at everything then end up firing hundreds and thousands of employees while giving bonuses to executives because the quarterly earnings weren't as high approach that lot of publicly traded companies have moved towards.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Figuring out how to easily port Windows games to Linux was definitely a recipe for profit.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And it was a shitload of work that took a decade plus, even being built on top of pieces that were even older, with absolutely zero guarantee of any kind of a payout.

Very few companies make these kinds of risks anymore.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's not only goodwill, it's a survival tactic for valve. The worst case scenario for them, is see microsoft expand their monopoly to have all apps and software available only through their Microsoft app store, competing directly with valve, with the unfair advantage of microsoft controlling both windows and the app store. They could (and probably have) tried to get to where apple is with its app store on macos/ios. Though of course this would be an anticompetitive move, but the intentions could still exist making valves life difficult.

The moment they can untie gaming from windows, they have a path forward to keeping themselves not only alive but relevant and probably safe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yet other store platforms like epic, gog, blizzard, origin, and uplay don't bother supporting Linux and are content with Microsoft.

So as much of a survival tactic it might be it would seem any other company wouldn't bother and still aren't.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Yet Valve has demonstrated it's smarter than any of them, we're literally commenting on an article saying they're making 3.5 million $ per employee

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What are their respective market shares compared to steam? Is it comparable? If it's not, maybe they're missing the leverage to try what Valve is attempting. But also, and likely, this is a costly long term development process.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

So it shows other companies are short term thinking focusing more on quarter profits, and also explains why they missed put on two console generations worth of time to make a dent in the PC space when the industry was claiming PC was dying.

It's always excuses and lack of willingness to take risks on plans that might not pan out immediately. Then when it becomes successful from another company excuse is what is the market share in the present.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They could (and probably have) tried to get to where apple is with its app store on macos/ios.

They did.

The Windows 10/11 "S Mode" only allows installing software through the Windows store. It was mostly relegated to OEM installs for cheap x86 and ARM laptops, thankfully.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ew. I hate that. I see they offer an option in settings to permanently switch out of S mode, but that seems like it's a crappy excuse. I'm guessing most users are never going to go there, and will stay in S mode, using only Microsoft's awful products. That's their intention, at least.

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[–] [email protected] 197 points 6 days ago (8 children)

They really figured out the infinite money glitch.

They've been nothing but fair to me as a customer but the cynic in me thinks they've got an excessive amount of good will to squander since they dominate the PC gaming scene.

Please don't become shitty. And please release new non competitive games.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago (3 children)

That's what you can do if you're not publicly traded. The supposedly "wise" market whenever anything goes wrong always seems to insist on burning down decades of good-will to extract a few bucks.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They really figured out the infinite money glitch.

Provide a decent service then sit back and watch your would-be competition develop increasingly effective footguns?

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Gaben said it best when he said "piracy is a service issue, not a price issue." There is no other company that even comes close to matching Steam's services, both to consumers and developers. The industry could become a different place when he dies. I don't see any other CEO continuing to spend money to innovate and expand services rather than offer less and charge more to extract record profits.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago

Developers really trying to kill that by having buggy /launchers that run off steam launcher on top

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is absolutely mad cope, but I want to believe that, as forward thinking as Gabe is, he either will find a worthy successor, or already has one lined up to ensure the company isn't saced for all it's worth when he's gone.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Price has become a big issue lately too.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I feel the same, I know that things will likely go downhill if he goes. That's why I also buy GoG games, I want to be able to download them if things go sour with Steam.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You can downlowad some of the steam games. DRM is possible, but not mandatory

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I can only hope he has made some form of training program to have someone like him in place to follow behind him. I do worry about it as well, though. It's been such a fun ride along the way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

When you said "training program" it made me think Portal style. Like the new exec gets hired or promoted and wakes up in an Aperture facility voiced by Gabe.

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