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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Wimdy.

But the least wimdy going forward.
We gonna achieve such terrifying new records in just years!

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

I remember when conservatives were hooting and hollering about Climate Science Being Wrong, because the predicted "Worst hurricane season on record" wasn't producing a record number of powerful storms.

Well... now what? I guess we can fall back to Gaetz and DeSantis blaming Biden for a bad cleanup job. Or go the MTG approach and start talking about HARP and the Jewish Space Lasers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Well... now what?

Years went by and Earth-destroying profits continued for all these years, again.
The goal was well defined, misinformation carefully funded, the results what they hoped for.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They will probably say "it's just a hurricane, doesn't prove anything"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Climate deniers can never be dissuaded from their idiot beliefs by science, because they are already ignoring science to these beliefs in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

this can't be an accurate or reasonably accurate depiction, these are two completely different storms in a different category after all.

This is like me comparing the joplin tornado to the el reno tornado.

(for those that don't know the joplin tornado was an extremely erratic EF/F 5 tornado that was incredibly strong and just sort of showed up and then lingered over a particular area causing immense destruction, whereas el reno was a massive, very powerful tornado, that was collectively rated to be about an EF/F 3 i believe, although the core itself, and numerous shenanigans it pulled including sub vorticies or whatever the correct term is were much stronger, causing strong localized damage)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (7 children)

The different categories are the point. What they're missing though is Helene was much closer to a category 5. It's winds were 15 mph short of that category and the storm tail you can see in the above photo is characteristic of category 5 Hurricanes. That in and of itself isn't a big deal. The big deal is that it's the second storm at this strength this year. The first one stayed coastal where they're used to all that rain.

What the picture is basically saying is Katrina was a warning shot. An actual Category 5 with winds well past 157 mph is going to hit the wrong spot and we're all going to regret not taking climate change seriously.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

this can't be an accurate or reasonably accurate depiction, these are two completely different storms in a different category after all.

What do you mean? This shows the differences between the two.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As with everything, it also matters where it hits.

Katrina and New Orleans's levees was a big deal. Helene flooding areas many moles from the coast in high altitude areas.

There have been bigger hurricanes that do less damage and likely there will be future weaker ones that do more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Mathew and Hugo were pretty horrific.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

I too worry about the poor moles getting flooded!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

W must be watching with popcorn

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well, it's not over.

This is coming next week. Path is unclear, and its not as big as Helene, but anything near a 930mb in Tampa Bay and plowing over Orlando at 950mb, especially at this angle, is a catastrophe.

Katrina was 920mb at landfall, and these intensity forecasts have been undershooting hurricanes recently.

And there's another low pressure system at the edge of the GFS that I don't like, taking a similar path to Helene:

This is what the upcoming hurricane looked like a few days ago.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's clearly trying to help the US by amputating the injured limb.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I see Yoda in the 2nd pic

[–] [email protected] 165 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Good news! It's gonna get worse! Much, much worse! Say thank you to petrol states and companies, preferably by blowing up their infrastructure

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You should read Ministry for the Future. It's about how people cope with the world after the effects of climate change get out of hand. It's sobering.

The idea of just blowing up the offending petrol infrastructure made me think of it.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 month ago (4 children)

And a big thank you to politicians blocking major efforts to reduce carbon emissions thanks to lobbying by the industry and foreign governments.

The world finally needs to stop politicans getting huge donations and hold them accountable for their actions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

But they brought a snowball into Congress and everything so obviously climate change is fake news!

Anything and everything for money... I wonder if they'll take cash in hell?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

And also acting like "climate change" is a taboo topic that should never be spoken over the air, lest you offend someone.

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