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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

As someone not from hurricane continent, these images are freaking scary. Like what do you mean the hurricanes are several times bigger than my entire country?

I'm just sitting here thinking holy hell I hope cyclones don't come to my comfy corner of North-Eastern Europe

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Awesome, blatanly obvious misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

What I don't like about these graphics is there is no data source so you have to look it up to know how much to believe about what they say. So for those wondering, per Wikipedia:

  • Helene was a Cat 4, its max diameter was between 400-450 miles, max wind speed of 140 mph is correct. Known fatalities so far > 227 and counting.

  • Katrina was a Cat 5, 400 miles in diameter as shown, but with a max windspeed of 175 mph, not 125. For those too young to remember, Katrina was a very, very bad storm. So bad. Over 1392 fatalities (official estimate; exact number unknown). BTW Katrina also had a big tail/wing(?) stretching to the north when it hit land like what Helene had, but thinner since further west--but those don't count as part of the measured diameter of the hurricane.

My opinion of this graphic: Hurricanes are getting worse because of climate change, but we don't need to convince people of that by downplaying Katrina or making Helene look scarier--Helene is also very very bad. It's all bad, folks.

Katrina photo:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

According to wikipedia Katrina was only a cat 3 when it hit Louisiana. It did get up to a 5 at one point, but bot when it did most of it’s damage. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Katrina was a man made disaster. It would not have taken a tenth of the lives it did if the levees had been maintained.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This infuriates me so much. I am sitting here like a dumbass saying that this storm is worse than Katrina. Like I know I should do research before being confident in what I know but how many small infographics like this do we digest and then regurgitate a political opinion based off of them

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Worse is a hard metric to analyze when comparing 2 different storms. One may have higher winds. Another might dump more rain. Another might have brought a high storm surge to an area that couldn't handle it. Another might come in kinda mild and just stall, battering one area for a long time. One storm might do massively more damage if it hits Atlanta vs. Miami. I'll forgive people for getting a little hyperbolic when describing a storm that has personally impacted them. Storms may hit a broad region, but the impact of a storm is always hyper local.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are those images the same scale?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not quite, the Helene one is between 25% and 50% more zoomed in based on what I can see of the bump of Louisiana and the shape of Cuba. Still a striking comparison even with that accounted for.

Edit: Oh wait, I misread the uncovered coast line on Cuba. I think that's actually closer than I initially thought. They just have it panned and rotated a little.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hate how people are downvoting this guy just for asking a question, like what is this, reddit?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I think they're downvoting the Squid, not the content of the post. I imagine a poster like Flying Squid has made some enemies along the way, the kind of people who literally go and downvote all their posts.

I'll take what I said on Reddit and bring it here: Don't comment on downvotes, they don't matter.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn't worry about it. There's a very sad person who tries to downvote all of my posts on a regular basis.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I call that the validation downvote. Just means the federation is still working.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

It's a real screenshot from 2004's banger The Day After Tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why would a satellite actually imaging storms want to place a satellite in the image as well?

I think its from some movie, like "the Day after Tomorrow" or something.

Because in movies you can have a shot of a satellite while showing a shot of the storm. I think that's fairly harder to do in real life, seeing you'd have to have two satellites perfectly in sync (and they go pretty fast) or a satellite (space stations are satellites as well) with a very long selfie stick.

Edit actually yah googled "the day after tomorrow storm" and this was one of the first images to pop up, the exact same image https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/scale_862/public/2022/12/storm.jpg

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've seen ISS photos that have bits of the ISS in the shot. 🤷‍♂️

But also, I did some searching and no, that is not Hurricane Milton.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah there's shots like that. But like, in general. I don't know just made me think of the day after tomorrow and yes it's was that.

I googled "the day after tomorrow storm " and it was one of the first image https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/scale_862/public/2022/12/storm.jpg

So must've been in my subconscious or smth

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Geostorm. Fun enough throwaway Gerard Butler movie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I feel like those words could be used to describe most of his movies (though obviously some are better than others, I'd even go so far as call a couple of them pretty good)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Absolutely hilarious in the most unintentional way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

deleted by creator.

Man, that's a rough way to describe everyone's homes after the storm

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