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Bids opened Monday for a contract to supply the state Department of Education with 55,000 Bibles. According to the bid documents, vendors must meet certain specifications: Bibles must be the King James Version; must contain the Old and New Testaments; must include copies of the Pledge of Allegiance, Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights; and must be bound in leather or leather-like material.

A salesperson at Mardel Christian & Education searched, and though they carry 2,900 Bibles, none fit the parameters.

But one Bible fits perfectly: Lee Greenwood’s God Bless the U.S.A. Bible, endorsed by former President Donald Trump and commonly referred to as the Trump Bible. They cost $60 each online, with Trump receiving fees for his endorsement.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

So do these bibles omit all of the text and stories in the normal Bible that would qualify them for book bannings?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

OH WOW! That's such a weird coincidence! Imagine the odds of that! /s

Of course they did. The thing is the way the law is written violates the Constitution by promoting an ideologically-loaded, outdated translation of the Bible used by more socially extreme groups.

  • NRSV(UE) is the gold standard nowadays.
  • Leather cover? Why? What's the point?
  • The Founding Documents to the United States do not belong in a Bible. Not everything has to be tarnished with crass "Patriotic" grift.
  • Just the Bill of Rights? The Amendments to the Constitution are legally part of the Constitution. What are they not included? Is there something in those Amendments they don't feel is appropriate?
  • This Bible has consistent poor reviews on Youtube. A number of Bible collectors, theologians, pastors, etc have panned this book for being cheaply and poorly made. It has poor print quality, it's pages stick together, are thin, and rip easy.

It should be obvious to anyone this is an ideological grift and it is criminal graft too. These criminals need to be thrown in prison for this.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Isn't it ironic that bibles sold to this agency have the documents stating there is separation of church and state included in the book?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, I thought these guys were against indoctrinating children or whatever?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

They're against anyone else indoctrinating children.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you mean to tell me the requirement isn't "be a bible" ???

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Did a con artist promote it for money? If so-✅

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty clear they wrote the requirement to fit some recently hacked up version as opposed to the one hacked up by king james.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The article states they hacked it up 2900 times at least before this one. 30k different Christian sects in the U.S. last I knew

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm sure its more than that. The really perverse thing about that is all the people that are super sure their particular flavor is right and everyone else is wrong. Its the old thing about what is a cult and what is a religion? A cult is a small unpopular religion and a religion is a large popular cult.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who tf wrote those requirements?

It seems pretty clear to me that they intended the Trump Bible to be the only one that fit all the specifications.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

While it's obviously weird to want the bill of rights and declaration of independence in your Bible; let me just say, if your goal is to convert kids to Christianity, the KJV bible is just completely opaque to children that don't normally read 17th century literature.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

They want it to be opaque, that lends it an air of mystery and importance, and then when the preacher drills contradictory information into their heads theyre less likely to question it or look it up themselves because if the church says god hates gays or poors or immigrants it must be in that big scary book somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

At the rate these political hacks are going, students won't be able to parse modern text.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For fuck's sake in ten years we're going to hear kids tell us the Constitution was given to us by Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There will be no Constitution

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh no. It's an important point of legitimacy to have one. It won't be worth a damn though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wasn't it George W. Bush that said, "... it's just a god damn piece of paper?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'm sure he wasn't the first. (Yeah I'm looking at you Andrew Jackson, we haven't forgotten.)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

Yep, that’s when you start with the answer you want, then set “general” requirements that only it can meet

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why are they putting bibles in classrooms in the first place? Did they repeal the First Amendment?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

The first amendment doesn't apply to Christian evangelism.

According to SCOTUS at any rate.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Apparently, the State Superintendent gets to decide what gets taught in classrooms, and how it gets taught is left up to individual school districts. But it's fully within his right because no "commentary" is allowed around the Bible, just how important it was to America's history.

Why that requires a physical copy that's leather bound, I have no idea. Nor why the money has to come from the fucking payroll budget.

Oklahoma is ranked 49th in education, yet this is what we're spending money on? Seriously?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm certain they take 49th with equal amounts salt and pride, as that means theres still a few states left to beat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

They're really gunning for 50th.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

But they are top five in propaganda training!

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