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I want to selfhost my own personal website. This is just for fun, as a hobby and to show off my skills to others. nothing big.

I have my own server home but I want to have something that's separate from my personal stuff.

I do not need any support, meaning it can be as cheap as possible. I do not yet know how much RAM or CPU or storage I need. I guess CPU > 2GHz and 2GB RAM should be enough to start.

daily/weekly backup with rsync in case the hoster goes out of business.

I do not need a domain, I will use a dynamic dns hoster.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I use Netcup. Reliable, simple, great deals from time to time (such as Black Friday).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Racknerd. I have two VPS with them for a total of $25/year. not as feature filled as any of the big players but it's dirt cheap. Found them on https://lowendbox.com/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I have two of their basic VPS and they've worked well. My few interactions with customer service has been less than awesome though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I haven't heard anyone else mention it, Vultr is a good one as well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

One of the best decisions I made, two years later. 💪

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I second that. I'm using Contabo for years without any problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Thirded.

They occasionally upgrade services for free, and rarely raise prices. They support a variety of base Linux images, including Arch (which, when I first switched to them, was rare). The control board is functional, and they've got all the features needed to implement VPN subnets, DKIM, etc. without having to use the DNS provider's tools (assuming you are using a different provider). There's also a command-line tool for managing your VPSes with them. Reasonably priced, the usual array of options from cheap to expensive, easy to add resources, and so on. Servers in the US and Germany (and maybe others? I haven't added a VPS in a while).

When I first started self-hosting, not all of this was standard. I can't say I've looked at the market in a few years, so perhaps their offerings are standard now, but when I moved from another hosting provider, Contabo stood out. I have been quite happy; perhaps the best thing I can say about them is that I haven't had to contact their technical support in the past couple of years.

P.S. the only cautionary thing I'll say it's that they're a German company. While you can never trust any VPS provider from a data security POV, Germany is a 5-eyes country, and so sits in my "least trustworthy" list; as in, they're least likely to put up any resistance if one of the surveillance states asks for access to your data, or to tell you about it before they do. For me, this doesn't matter, and frankly I don't have enough knowledge to choose a better option if I needed it. Since I don't, and since I'm not using my servers for anything that's currently considered subversive, it isn't yet a worry for me. But FYI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

They have servers in different countries as well

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Avoro is really cheap and I can recommend them. If you are student, you might want to look into GitHub Student pack, which includes DigitalOcean credits.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Depends on what you need:

  • As cheap as possible, but actually want a VM: OCI free tier will be way bigger than you will probably need
  • Happy paying money but still want to learn about Linux things: I've had good experiences with Scaleway
  • I just want something I can set up and not think about: don't use a VPS. Architect your site as a pure-static site, stick it in an S3 bucket. You'll probably be within the free tier unless you do absolutely bonkers traffic, and once it's running you can leave it alone for literal years without worrying about patches or upgrades
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Contabo maybe ?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Almost a chuckle

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Lesser-known, perhaps, but their prices are great...less than $30/yr usd

Racknerd

Racknerd.com

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is it just me or does your link point to slrpnk.net/racknerd

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Fixed.

No idea wassup, the meta showed simply racknerd.com....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Love my Racknerd VPS.

Edit: Some deals here

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have had no problems with Racknerd... That being said I just use my VPS and a tunnel back to my home server but totally worth the $22 is cost me a year.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What's with that crazy price jump from $23/year to $18/month? Doubling RAM and cores increases prices by 9x? 2GB RAM and 2 cores is $5-6 at Hetzner, no idea how they think $18/month for 1GB RAM and 2 cores is competitive in any way, that's a bit of a dark pattern IMO...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Scummy, but not uncommon really. Bring in customers at the cheap tier and then once they're in your ecosystem overcharge for the higher tiers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Idk, most of the bigger VPS services don't have anything like that. Yeah, they have higher tiers, but you usually get similar or better value as you go up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good point, I imagine you're right! I haven't shopped many VPS services, I was venting about the general practice I've seen in other services before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Fair. Here are some that I find to be pretty consistently competitive:

  • Vultr
  • DigitalOcean
  • Hetzner

I've used each and liked each. They're rarely the absolute cheapest, but they are usually competitive at all tiers with no pretty much no shenanigans. I'm currently with Hetzner, which has been good for the few months I've been with them, but I've spent multiple years with the other two.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I would use something like cloudflare pages or an Azure static web app. Its free and serverless you just update your site with github or similar.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oracle free vps. I run it for wireguard tunnel to circumvent CGNAT on my home connection. Shit company, yes, but works well for over a year. I run Ubuntu server on the VPS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can you explain how to do it?

I've registered recently but cant spin up a vm because its full on my region.

What caveat should i aware of when using this service?

And what instance do you choose?

Thanks :D

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

My server is in Europe somewhere, I run Ubuntu server. Caveats... Doesn't run on a gigiabit connection, but that is honestly not necessary. Once I got notification, that free instances are stopped when not in use for some time. After that they stopped it, I started it again and after that it just runs all the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, those may work. Since you’ve one how does it look like? Are there blocked ports line SMTP? Are the IP good / aren’t blacklisted everywhere already? Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I was able to open any ports in NAT settings on my router and get access to my network. One day they pit me behind CGNAT. Wo i did the Wireguard tunnel connecting my tiny client ubuntu with outside VPS. Works like a charm. My operator can go screw themselves. I changed my DNS records to Cloudflare on my domain and pointed CF to my VPS server IP. So I can run everything through my domain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Great, but what services are you hosting ? What ports you need?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Adguard Home DNS, Jellyfin, Gitea, Webmin, webmail, LibreSpeed, SSH access, Wanderer (trail database), Portainer, Apache2 web server and most likely more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

So, looks like tons of HTTP services and SSH.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Can recommend Hetzner (German IP). Good value and so far solid.

Before that I used OVH (French IP) for years but it ended badly. First they locked me out of my account for violating 2FA which I had not asked for or been told about, and would not provide any recourse except sending them a literal signed paper letter, which I had to do twice because the first one they ignored. A nightmare which went on for weeks. And then, cherry on the cake, my VPS literally went up in smoke when their Strasbourg data center burned down! Oops! Looks like your VPS is gone, sorry about that, here's a voucher for six months free hosting! Months later they discovered a backup but the damage was done. Never again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I switched from Vultr to Hetzner, mostly because I was annoyed at the screen-blocking prompt to accept the new EULA (included forced arbitration). Hetzner still has the forced arbitration, but the prices are good and I haven't found anything to be especially annoyed at.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I'm also a switcher from ovh to hetzner. Good service, good support, fast machines, the administration website is very good (ovh was slow and ugly), snapshots and backups are cheap and directly available (AFAIR ovh snapshots required a monthly fee). Hetzner is Germany based, good for GDPR, and now they have data centers in USA too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I recommend Hetzner too. I've been a happy customer for a decade. Support, should you need it, works well and services are rock solid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

+1 for Hetzner

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Have a look at OVH, they have very good VPS prices

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

DigitalOcean has droplets that only cost $4/mo. I use one for a small, static site and a gopher server.