Biden went somewhere on this?
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boy if i had rights and benefits for every right and benefit Joe Biden "said he backed"
Boy, if you had basic civics knowledge as to how a president in the executive branch cannot pass laws himself but requires the legislative branch (Congress) to pass said laws that he would back.
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Yeah I view these statements more as "I'm going to tell you what you want to hear so you'll elect me!"
This close to the election...
It would've been cool if she said this when she was actively putting people in cages for weed.
It would've been cool if she said this for the past 4 years while she was VP.
Now she's saying it for an election. I'm sure she's legit this time. lol.
She co-sponsored a bill to fully legalize it in 2018. Behind closed doors she was advocating for legalizing it as VP, but Biden doesn't support full legalization so it would've been a bad look for him if his VP was publicly going against him when he was still running
How dare someone change their mind! We should definitely teach her a lesson she won't forget and be amongst the 3000 people who who vote for Cornel West in November!
How can you make the claim that she changed her mind? Believe actions not words regardless of who it's coming from.
Actions she can't take until after January 20th? How do you expect people to do that? Or are you really trying to claim that since she hasn't issued a public apology, she's definitely lying and hasn't changed her mind?
I didn't say I expected her to legalize it right now nor am i looking for an apology. You're mocking the other poster and claiming "she's changed her mind" without any evidence apart from a basic statement from her that could prove to be completely false for all we know (which was the whole point of their comment).
I'm not mocking anything. The person I responded to said:
If she actually had a change of heart, she should apologize to the nonviolent victims she chose to prosecute and incarcerate.
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If a politician actually changes their mind that's fine. If they change their mind to become pro-cannabis legalization, that's great.
But they shouldnt try to gaslight the populace into believing that this was their stance all along.
If this was Kamala's position all along, then her actions as District Attorney are very hypocritical.
If she actually had a change of heart, she should apologize to the nonviolent victims she chose to prosecute and incarcerate.
Or you could not let the perfect be the enemy of the good and celebrate a candidate advocating for legalization.
This is such a ridiculous expression and I wish people would quit using it to shut down valid criticism and justify inaction from our leaders.
You see a homeless guy starving on the sidewalk and give him a penny to go buy food. It's obviously not enough to buy anything and he objects, but you tell him "don't let perfect be the enemy of good. You should be thankful for what I've given you."
Rapist Brock Turner rapes a girl behind a dumpster at school. He's given probation for the crime. "Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Be thankful that he's being punished for his crime."
Trump passes his tax bill in 2018 giving permanent cuts to wealthy individuals while middle and lower classes get a temporary cut along with the removal of some credits and caps on SALT deductions. This widens the income inequality in our country but since we got a couple of years of lower tax bills, "don't let perfect be the enemy of good..."
Just stop it.
I'm sorry, but if you can't accept legalization of cannabis without a public apology, I would say "letting the perfect be the enemy of the good" is exactly the right phrase to use.
You're right, no one really cares about a public apology. Just like this entire story, it's only words.
What really matters is advocacy for those nonviolent drug "offenders". They deserve release from jail, an end to probation, an expungement of criminal records, and reparations for the losses they suffered.
Kamala issuing a pro-legalization press release is the path of least resistance for her. If she actually stood on principle she would advocate to expunge the criminal records of all nonviolent drug offenders that her DA office prosecuted. But even that is just the words of a politician- what really matters is policy change.
You literally said:
If she actually had a change of heart, she should apologize to the nonviolent victims she chose to prosecute and incarcerate.
Do you care about a public apology or not?
Policy is what matters. A public apology is just optics, and I only care about optics insofar as it affects policy.
I was offering up a public apology as one way to help resolve her current hypocrisy on this issue. Harris' current position seems to be something like "allow current and future cannabis consumption, but continue to brutally punish those who consumed cannabis in the past" and I find this deeply schizophrenic.
Okay, well she can't set policy until she's the president. So is your argument here that we shouldn't be hopeful that she'll do what she says she'll do because she hasn't done it yet even though it's not in her power? Otherwise I don't understand what the deal is here.
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There's no indication that legalization is happening. What we've gotten is a simple statement that may or may not be true.
That's because she hasn't been elected yet.
You know she's just the vice president, right?
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Best way to get the young male vote to be honest. Isn't this part of what made Ron Paul popular?
Ron Paul wass popular becausue of his racist newsletter back in the 80's. Everything else was just whitewash.
To me, a European, he was one of the very few, if any, candidates that made sense and seemed consistent in how he voted and spoke. And I consider myself to be quite libertarian.
I don't really understand your remark to be honest, other than shoehorning the "he made a racist remark" thing into the conversation. Perhaps you could elaborate.
The point is that Ron Paul was a true, modern, libertarian in that his "freedom" and "liberty" shtick was always about freedom to do segregation via "freedom of association" and other such nonsense. Ron Paul created the libertarian to fascist pipeline because libertarianism has mever been anything but veiled racism
Your entire theory hinges on a racist remark that he didn't even write and was possibly unaware of. Unless I'm missing something groundbreaking on page 2 and 3 of that article which I can't read because it's paywalled.
Is there anything Ron Paul did politically that would suggest fascist ideologies? The word is thrown around a lot these days.
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Ron Paul wasn't popular because of a racist newsletter. He was popular because the libertarian ideals he espoused were appealing to internet dwellers that hadn't experienced real life yet.
Bit easy to dismiss millions of people because they aren't cynical or bitter and then equating that to basically being young and dumb. Perhaps reality is what it is because it's always the Bush' and Clinton's, who only marginally affect the status quo, and never the Ron Paul's, who see inherent issues with the system, or 'reality', and at least have somewhat of an inclination to improve it.
Man, I'm happy someone else might remember that time on Reddit which I could only call "peak cringe". Everyone and their mother seemed to love Ron Paul on that site
Wasn't that really the days of Digg? I can't even remember such eons ago...
I sadly was one of those duped, hot off of reading Atlas Shrugged no less at a more impressionable time in my life. Thank fuck I crawled my way out.