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I didn't know HOW bad Google search has gotten. (ponder.cat)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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For some reason I was back in Chrome today, and I searched Google, without meaning to, for:

get channel id for a youtube channel

Here's what I got:

✨ AI Overview Learn more … To find a YouTube channel's ID, you can: Use the YouTube account settings Sign in to YouTube, select your profile picture, then Settings, and then Advanced settings. You must be signed in as the channel's primary owner to see this information.

That's great, but I am not the channel's primary owner, and surely the majority of the time the person seeking an answer to this question will not be, also.

Use the channel's URL Click on the channel's name under any of its videos, and then look at the URL of that page. The handle will appear at the end of the link, preceded by the @ sign.

That is not the channel ID.

Use the page source code View the page source code of any video from the channel, and look for the "channelid" keyword.

I felt a little stingy at this point, because this sounds like a real solution.

I opened the source for the channel page, and searched the source code for channelid, and found nothing.

Then, while typing this complaint, I noticed that I was supposed to do that from a random video's page, so I opened one of the videos, did that, and found nothing.

A YouTube channel can have multiple URLs that direct viewers to the channel homepage. These URLs can look different, but they all point to the same channel.

Irrelevant information. How do I find the channel ID?

Generative AI is experimental. 👍 👎

Thanks Google! I know.

Sign in to YouTube. Settings . From the left menu, select Advanced settings. You'll see your channel's user and channel IDs.

Find your YouTube user & channel IDs - Google Help

Yes! I know. However, this isn't my channel. I want to find someone else's channel's ID.

❓About featured snippets • 💬 Feedback

I have some doubts whether you would accept my feedback, if I decided to give it. Why is this here?

Learn what words mean as you search Select words to get definitions & translations without leaving the page (Got it)

Thanks! That's really useful to know. Do you know how I can get a channel ID though?

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Fascinating!

Stack Overflow https://stackoverflow.com/ › questions › how-can-i-get-a... An easy answer is, your YouTube Channel ID is UC + {YOUR_ACCOUNT_ID}. To be sure of your YouTube Channel ID or your YouTube account ID, access the advanced ... 23 answers Top answer: To obtain the channel id you can view the source code of the channel page and find ... How can I get YouTube channel ID using channel name URL? Feb 7, 2023 Is there any way to get youtube channel ID ... - Stack Overflow Sep 14, 2023 How to get a youtube channelid from the channels link ... Jan 11, 2023 I can't get channel id using YouTube Data API v3 Mar 25, 2023 More results from stackoverflow.com

I clicked on Stack Overflow, closed several popups. The top answer wasn't useful. I did find a couple of answers down:

"To obtain the channel id you can view the source code of the channel page and find either data-channel-external-id="UCjXfkj5iapKHJrhYfAF9ZGg" or "externalId":"UCjXfkj5iapKHJrhYfAF9ZGg".

UCjXfkj5iapKHJrhYfAF9ZGg will be the channel ID you are looking for.

I tried that, and it didn't work.

Back to Google:

Comment Picker https://commentpicker.com/ › Tools › YouTube YouTube Channel ID Finder is a free tool to help you find a YouTube channel ID, along with other related channel information and statistics.

And it worked! I get 2 free channel ID queries per day. Fortunately I only needed the one. But it worked! It only took several minutes of scrolling past multiple screens of things that didn't work.

Now let's compare that to DDG.

Videos for get channel id for a youtube channel 1:28 How to Find YouTube Channel ID - 2024 263K views YouTube1yr

I skipped this as I didn't want a video.

https://www.streamweasels.com/ › tools › youtube-channel-id-and-user-id-convertor YouTube Channel ID Finder - YouTube Username to ID Convertor Simply enter any YouTube username or handle below and click Convert Username to ID. This tools makes use of the YouTube API to make the conversion. You can check out our other API tools here. Select YouTube handle, username or legacy: YouTube handles are now considered the default for Y

And there we go! It works.

When did it get this bad?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

after calling google a great search engine dude and google goes mr krabs mode (best i can describe their greed)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is there any way to turn off the garbage-tier AI in Google searches?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Startpage is basically a different frontend for Google and doesn't have this

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://udm14.org/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

You can also add an extension for firefox/ ff mobile. Search for udm14 and you'll find it. Keep in mind this also kills things that are more useful like sports schedules, calculator, time in different cities etc. that Google does automatically. So if I want that I just open an incognito tab to bypass the extension.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Part of the problem is that Google now defaults to "All" (web, shopping, news, video, etc) instead of defaulting to Web only and allowing you to select if you want video, or shopping or news etc. That's a lot of what I see complained about most.

This is first and foremost because Google is an ad aggregation company and they literally want to keep you on the page longer to serve you more ads.

The second problem is that the SEO for Google is so abused at this point that it's laughable. Search engine optimisation was useful until companies and people started trying to hack it in order to have their results show up before competitors. Because large competitors also have money, it's no longer enough to just pay to play.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Feel free to correct me as I see other comments saying the same thing, but I don’t believe Google wants you to spend a lot of time reviewing a specific search result.

They don’t have refreshing display or video ads where time on site really makes a difference. They want you to click on a sponsored result, which is a paid action worth way more than a viewed impression.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The more you scroll, the more ads they can serve on one page. So if you scroll to the bottom, don't see the results you want, you're likely to try to reword what you were searching for which will bring up new results and more ads. When you think about the fact that 4-5 of the first results are ads generally (if not more) and you have to scroll past those to get a result that isn't an ad, you recognize that they are maximizing time spent looking at ads because that's what they are selling to their real customers (the ad services for whom they aggregate).

This scenario makes it more likely that you will click on a sponsored result, backtrack, scroll some more, not see what you're looking for, re-word your search query, click on maybe another sponsored result, backtrack etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

YtTags is another useful tool

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

You should ask it for medical advise

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When did it get this bad?

Bad? Google just proved that they can get you to stay on their search page (or come back to get a different answer) for way longer than you need... this is a WIN for them.

The enshittification of the internet + the greed inherent in these mega corps have caused websites to be designed to ~~grab~~ steal your attention for as long as possible. The longer they can keep you on their site, the more money/data/attention/time they can get out of you.

If search was designed to benefit the user, a typical visit would result in maybe 5-10 seconds of someone's time to enter a search and click on the relevant result. You proved that when you compared it to DDG 😀

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah except OP already said they don't use Google anymore, presumably because they got fed up with it. As the expression goes, pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. If Google has bogged down the web search experience so much that people are defecting then they've gone too far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Believe me, Google does enough a/b testing, and has enough experience in psychological manipulation to know where "the line" is for most people.

Sure, some will never use their product(s) again when pushed too far, but they don't really need everyone to be using their products.

Only the users they can profit from the most are of value. If a terrible UI, awful UX, or even a paid subscription doesn't scare them away from using a Google Product, then each of those users becomes a cash cow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

View source worked for me, but there's a couple of tricks to it I think...maybe.

First I made sure I was on the channel's main page and not one of the channel's videos. Then I did right-click "view source". The source is all smashed together (unformatted) of course. It's annoying to search and read like that, so I copy-pasted the source into my favorite text editor and was able to find "channelid" it that way.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

I had to go hunting for channel IDs when I ditched the yt frontend for RSS. There is still proper working RSS for each channel, even though for some reason they removed the actual RSS button probably a decade ago.

So I had to go to the channel page, inspect element, search for "rss", and somewhere in the page source there would be the link (or I might have to refresh sometimes because it's missing for whatever reason). One only needs the ID, as the rest of the link is the same, of course.

As we both found out, it's not as trivial as it once may have been, before @s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not sure if this will help for that specific search but I recently discovered a change that you can make to your browser's search defaults that makes Google search a lot better (for me at least), stripping away all the AI stuff.

Details in this thread: https://lemmy.world/post/19104187

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

TLDR: Add &udm=14 to the Google search URL.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yep, and thanks, I should have done that myself. Although setting that up as the default search takes a little more detail.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I'm with you but I wouldn't trust search results that point me to a 3rd party tool to do whatever I need to do. Unless the link in question is actually well known and I've just been living under a rock, then don't mind me

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah i started to notice this as well. Also a ton of nsfw stuff nowadays seems to not show up anymore. Duckduckgo is even worse through. For what ever reason Yandex gets better results then google and duckduckgo. Not a fan of yandex in general though.

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