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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey Proton how about you quit privacy-washing and actually prioritize and release feature parity products for Linux so your customers aren't being herded onto windows' data harvesting platform just so they can use your supposedly privacy forward products

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

On that topic, is there an alternative for a mail client + calendar for Win 11 that doesn’t look and feel like a Windows 95 exe named Thunderbird?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Thunderbird did get a UI overhaul semi-recently so it might offer what you're after now.

I also liked eM Client which has a free version.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What part of Windows (or Microsoft software in general) is not a data collection service?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you aren’t using an insider edition then Notepad is still safe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

... for now. They've already replaced the old Notepad with a bloated UWP version, so it probably won't be long before it starts sending telemetry as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

bloated?

I think then new Notepad is just perfectly fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The tabs are nice, but I notice it takes 3x as long to open (TBF it's still under a second) and take up 10x the memory (12MB vs 1.2MB), for basically doing the same thing as the old version.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Outlook honestly was not that bad for a while, but of course Microsoft does what Microsoft does. I've been using Thunderbird for about a year now and it is very full featured coming directly from outlook.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does thunderbird support exchange protocols or just IMAP

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use if for exchange and gmail - it's pretty robust. Plus, they are approaching completion of their mobile app which has similar capabilities

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Looks like it uses IMAP. Nothing wrong with that. It is just common practive when locking down Exchange Online to tick the box in Conditional Access that disables "legacy protocols", which includes IMAP. I've been using eM Client which uses EWS but doesn't support push-mail so still on the look-out for something else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah no shit, and you do think I have a single goddamn bit of influence over my corporation's choice of email client??

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

well, as far as you use it just for your work, who cares, right? It's the same as I'd never use Lastpass, my corp use it and even offered it for our personal use :D thanks, but no thanks! For personal use I would never use any microsoft solution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They can leech all the data they want from my employer. I don't give a fuck. Never use company assets for personal business as an addendum.

Just be a little more careful with your own stuff, s'all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends on your sector of work. Imagine you’re a therapist or a lawyer…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A lot of healthcare and education institutions use Outlook as well, so I wouldn't be surprised if mental health or legal uses it too. There may be rules about what kind of client/student/patient information can be sent over email, and often there are healthcare/institution specific variants of the office suites which (are supposed to) meet regulatory requirements

I think the other comment applies regardless. Do work things on the work device/account and let the workplace handle any other concerns. When it comes time to discuss alternatives, you can make a case for something else