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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Even if every claim of Russian ebil oligarchy was real, to which many of the claims are bogus, at worst it is still an economically and militarily less-influential version of the US-NATO empire?

Surely, even if you were an anarchist or otherwise anti-nationalist on the left, you would see the historic importance of said US Empire suddenly biting off more than it can chew and being drawn into collapse?

I know there are exceptions like the A"C"P, but most people on the left I know that "support" Russia are just supporting the growing attrition and contradictions against the imperialist system. Those same people are all very aware of limitations and contradictions within the Russian, Chinese, Iranian states.

In short, you can't expect to win against the imperialists if every time the imperialists face a challenger you spend countless hours criticising the challenger's politics as if this wasn't already universally agreed within the statement critical support.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Russia is not a far right country ,in fact Russia is one of the ONLY counties in Europe not led by a fascist maniac

If you know anything about geopolitics you would know that Russia is opposed by right wingers in the global south but supported by left wingers ,example (election with a pro trump candidate vs a pro Putin candidate)

Also let’s look at Putin’s policies : more tolerant on immigration than the USA ,Germany ,Poland ,Baltic states ,France

Abortion is legal and will likely never be removed as a right

Muslims and ethnic minorities are actually protected by the state

Is NOT viewed as a nationalist

His MAIN opponents are Nazis ,Neo Nazis ,monarchists (who are also Neo Nazis) , NeoLibs who want to privatize Russia

Is Putin a communist ? No he’s not and Russia is not a communist country by any means but that doesn’t fucking matter ,there are ONLY 5 communist countries on the fucking planet

And I hate this absolutely braindead thing from westerners not libs but comrades about Putin being a fascist ,I don’t respect liberals so I don’t care but I hate when our comrades say this while simultaneously defending Bashar Al Assad (rightfully)

If Bashar isn't a fascist (he isn’t but he has more reactionary opinions than Putin) than Putin isn’t

Also as for the Russia is anti communist thing ,yes I don’t care ,Russia is not even close to being the most anti communist country in the world proven by the fact it’s literally an ally of communist states and Putin is not much of an anti communist as a lot of Russian are these days (unfortunately) as well as his opposition

Putin also isn’t really a dictator but this one is more complicated as elections are rigged in Russia just not to a full extent ,most Russians would vote for Putin even if elections were completely fair but there is indeed corruption

Sorry for how angry I have been but I can’t tolerate nonsense

And please mods I’m not gonna deal with any of the libs that will reply to this comment ,it’s your job

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm from country with HEAVY anty-russian propaganda, so you know, Russia bad. Could someone point me into the direction on materials about Russia with more balanced point of view?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The current war in Ukraine would never have happened if Ukraine had bothered to implement the Minsk Agreements.

They would have gotten back ALL of their territory lost during the civil war excluding Crimea (which they’re never getting back anyway), on the account that they have to stop pursuing ethnic cleansing policies in the eastern regions (the Minsk Agreements explicitly gave some level of cultural autonomy to the provincial governments so the Rada cannot, for example, simply impose a ban on the Russian language on a whim like they did on February 2014, which sparked the civil war in the first place).

Ukrainian fascists chose no, they cannot live without ethnic cleansing the Russians. So now they are going to lose everything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm from country with HEAVY anty-russian propaganda

Do you have any idea how much that lowers it down 😭

🤔 let me think for this one ,I’m sure some comrades here have something

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you have any idea how much that lowers it down

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

fair enough

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

It's my favorite thing when neoliberal slime appropriate the stupidest elements of Trotskyism.

Also, I have no respect for anyone who uses the word "oligarch" to mean "Asiatic-style capitalist" and I struggle to conceive how professed anticapitalists can still like her. Well, of course I can, she's part of their consumer lifestyle brand, she's an affectation of quippy, artsy, intellectualism that is so much more effective at bringing about real change by punching left over and over and over.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lenin invented revolutionary defeatism and it lead to the revolution. Luxemburg and Liebknecht said the main enemy is at home. From both follows, that the main task of leftists in the imperial core is, to oppose "our" imperialists. The ones we actually can affect. I'm happy if I see comrades in Russia do work against their oligarchy but I won't get tricked into supporting western oligarchs' NATO wars. Guess that's campist now? It just makes sense to spend time and resources where they actually change things - unless you don't really want fundamental change, because you enjoy your white western privilege too much.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

From both follows, that the main task of leftists in the imperial core is, to oppose "our" imperialists. The ones we actually can affect. I'm happy if I see comrades in Russia do work against their oligarchy but I won't get tricked into supporting western oligarchs' NATO wars.

Pretty good way of putting it, comrade! I'll definitely try to explain it along those lines next time I chat with my more liberal leaning progressives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah this is how I frame it always. There is nothing I can do to affect a change in Russian policy from the US as a broke ass communist. All I can do is organize and speak out against/try to undermine our own imperial forces. Same with when people talk about Chinese data harvesting, I give not one fuck what china has of my internet data why would they give a fuck about me? I do care about my data being in the hands of corporate black box algorithms and US federal agencies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Calling people "campists" while retweeting the NAFO camp.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trotsky, the inventor of the term "campist", thought that the trial in the process of decapitating the CPUSA would be a great platform to offer testimony to warn the world of the evils of Stalinism and tried to work with the US government to testify. It only fell through because they decided they had no use for him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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All while the usa is preparing to invade and slaughter a country of 90million together with his bestie, little hitler

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok Contra, but you don't support any opposition, State or non-State.

You don't have any problem with the state or capital, only see those running it as incompetent and wish they'd fulfill their part of the class collaborationism deal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

She supports the only opposition that matters: democrats and socdem video essayists

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

No, those aren't an opposition. They're people who peddle ideas to the government and hope to take the wheel for a few years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's crazy that anyone who glazed Hillary of all people is taken seriously in any capacity amongst left leaning people.

To be fair, she had a good video or two...ten years ago. Now its just "look at me i have money and lol tankies mad." Its been that way for 9 years at least, I clocked that shit a mile ago.

If people pay you to live your life like that, cool, great, get the bag. But don't pretend to be some arbiter of the left when you're cozying up to hillary

Idk, I could be wrong, im speaking after not having seen any of her content for a decade....but something tells me im not.

"They dont want power, they want to critique power"

No fuck you we want power why did we spend all that time and effort trying to elect local socialists in my city? Why was PSL on the presidential ballot in a lot of states? What is wrong with critiquing power anyways?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

She’s still mad at Ralph Nader ,she is a liberal

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

You are right. In her most recent video she calls herself a liberal and this time she seems to mean it, even if she can't fully remove the smirk from her face as she says it. And she keeps punching left for no reason and in ways that shouldn't even make sense to a liberal who has, like, actually talked to a Marxist before, even for one tweet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

"Niger should continue to be colonized by the French" - this woman

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