But those lawsuits aren't at the federal level, they are at the state level, or so I understand. The secret service operates at the federal level. And if they are at the federal level, well, the Supreme Court has been stuffed and they've been pretty flagrant at expanding GQP corruption mechanics.
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USSS won't just let him get on a plane and fly off to Russia. His security is their top priority, so allowing him to secrete himself somewhere without first verifying his itinerary and securing both the mode of transportation and the destination, would be unthinkable. That means they are reporting all of his movements to local law enforcement. Can't exactly flee the country in secret when every cop in the state will know his exact position and have eyes on him at all times. If the courts think he is a flight risk, someone involved in the process will know what he's trying to do and prevent him from going anywhere where it will be hard to get him back again.
The former presidents act seems to imply that a former president can decline Secret Service protection and even get $1 million for doing so. So I imagine he could just decline protection and hire his own security. But that would make it pretty obvious that he's planning on fleeing.
But that would make it pretty obvious that he's planning on fleeing.
As if that would be the first hint
I didn't know that Secret Service was mandatory for former US Presidents.
I suppose he could dismiss them, but considering he just had two recent attempts on his life, that would probably be unwise to say the least.
They aren't lawsuits, they're criminal indictments. Big difference.
You are assuming he is going to be sentenced in the US which as we’ve all seen is impossible.
So you're saying Trump knows this and doesn't plan to leave the country?
"if Santiago was safe, why the order?"
Probably for the best. Two assassination attempts in less than four months is pathetic to say the least. Even though his actions led to this🤷♀️🤭
Yes, but extradition back when the court issues a bench warrant would also be extremely easy. If there's already an order keeping him from traveling they'd have to enforce it. Which is part of why that New York judge getting scared was bad, the system is poorly designed for rich defendants. Usually it handles it by getting their passport and restricting them from traveling.
Good question, as is everything around trump as every situation with that loser is one that has never happened before
The whole point of the USSS protecting former Presidents is to prevent this exact thing from happening. The USSS would do everything in their power to prevent him from fleeing or to get him back.
I imagine the second he requests asylum or says he is a resident of another country, the USSS recalls every agent attached to him. They still work for a us government agency & are not answerable to a former, disgraced, president.
Or rather, they assassinate him themselves, since someone who has held clearance higher than any other member of the US government is a liability if he becomes disloyal to the US
Nah the USSS won't kill him.
That's the CIA's job
While accurate, we'll probably never find out if they end up being the ones responsible for his assassination.
It would become public around 20-30 years later, if the contra program is any indication
Plane went down over the Atlantic during mysterious circumstances.
They aren't assassins. They've spent up to a quarter of their career keeping this guy alive, they aren't going to turn around and shoot him. In the highly unlikely case Trump let it be known that he actually had a photographic memory and wanted to write it all down for Putin the secret service would simply be recalled. And his plane would fall apart mid-air, as they tend to do when the CIA or FIS (Russian flavor) gets involved.
Most likely scenario is we all remember Trump didn't even read his intel folders and we wave a fond bon voyage while offering free tickets to Russia for any die hard MAGA fans who want to go with him.
To be perfectly honest, I imagine the US government would see it as too big of a risk to just let him go without at least some sort of shadow watching and following his every move, ready to pounce the second he sneezes wrong. This would be if they were to let him leave.
Granted, it would all be speculation, but the possibility does exist.
The government and our laws really aren't that put together. If he were to defect there would be no visible reaction to us. And the stuff we couldn't see would be purely defensive, waiting to see what he could actually compromise and then trying to stay ahead of that. That's what we have systems and procedures for and that's what the government runs on.
Becomes?
Yeah I know he is already, but if he becomes more overt about it then the government will be more likely to be overt about treating him as such
Yeah. It's a spiral that our media culture seems perfectly engineered for.
He won't be sentenced or ever face jail time.
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