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This is great! Can't wait for him to no be able to do anything due to gridlock from the NYC democratic party machine and have to capitulate constantly, and then the massive Centrist Lib media apparatus will blame every problem plaguing NYC (even if the problems predated his mayoralship) which will give the Dem establishment more ammunition to blame all their woes on the progressive wing of the party and sell disenfranchised urban poor voters on establishment Dems.

Really a big fucking win for us. Letting the city sink under and establishment Dem was totally not the smarter fucking move.

Also if anyone calls me a doomer for this take I'll be recording your usernames and asking you how you feel about this post in a year from now.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Letting the city sink under and establishment Dem was totally not the smarter fucking move.

You may as well be a Posadist to say this. Fighting for things is good and waiting for things to get worse and worse as though you can then waltz in and win the confidence of the proletariat is nonsense. You're not a doomer because doomers don't pretend that giving up is 4D chess.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

When I am a magnificent eunuch janissary In the Mamdani caliphate in a year I WILL be coming to find YOU!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Let social democrats celebrate. They're not really hurting anyone. This isn't 1919 and they're not currently standing in the way of a successful revolution. If you start stewing in petty resentments now it's not going to serve you or anyone else. Save those feelings for when it matters.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So Hugo Chávez shouldn't have run for president of Venezuela? While electoralism isn't a magic bullet to achieve socialism, it is indeed one useful tool in the belt.

It will be a struggle, but if Mamdani can deliver positive change for his people, he can turn that into a movement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

i'll take that bet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Also if anyone calls me a doomer for this take I'll be recording your usernames and asking you how you feel about this post in a year from now.

Quick Everyone call sovietbeertruck a doomer so sovietbeertruck has to either make one massive post or a thousand smaller posts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

The wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: There's actually zero difference between good and bad things you imbecile, you fucking moron

dril

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

We love reformism here! Incremental progress! My favorite hobby is to watch elections--things will totally be different this time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

NYC mayor has nigh dictatorial powers in the city, being only be able to be checked by the state govt, NYPD, and the MTA

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Honestly even if the only difference between Zohran and Cuomo is that no women get sexually harassed by the NYC mayor I think that's a win.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

May the wall come swiftly to the enemies of the NYNKVD.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I cant wait for the NYNKVD to take Steven colbert out to central park and have him shoot on live television

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There is also great value in having someone like him win, then fail to improve things or achieve anything. It teaches socialist-leaning people that electoralism achieves nothing. It’s ten years since Sanders, there’s a whole new generation that needs to be taught that lesson (apparently) lol.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Yes exactly! I have to wonder how many people on hexbear picked up Lenin after watching Bernie get screwed.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Anyone have an over/under on superpac expenditures for the general? Something around 50mil?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think this argument is woefully doomer. At some point we have to support socialist candidates, and socialist organizing. The DSA and the Working Families party are showing up. The fight isn't done, but it's a W regardless

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Is he doing socialist organizing? Or is this just an electoral campaign?

Electoralism is fine as a tactic in a larger strategy, but if the entire strategy is just electoralism it's doomed to fail. There has to be a larger revolutionary project at work.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

But what if he’s just built different

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

dem is a dem.. but you know.. maybe this one has a softer touch? he probably will be blocked every step of the way from doing anything meaningful but good luck to him

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