this post was submitted on 25 Sep 2024
225 points (79.4% liked)

Unpopular Opinion

6288 readers
227 users here now

Welcome to the Unpopular Opinion community!


How voting works:

Vote the opposite of the norm.


If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.



Guidelines:

Tag your post, if possible (not required)


  • If your post is a "General" unpopular opinion, start the subject with [GENERAL].
  • If it is a Lemmy-specific unpopular opinion, start it with [LEMMY].


Rules:

1. NO POLITICS


Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.


2. Be civil.


Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...


Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.


5. No trolling.


This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.



Instance-wide rules always apply. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

I get that it started for free with less intrusive ads, but YouTube has had a huge impact on the way we all share and consume information. Understanding how much money it takes to run a service with the technology needed to provide high definition videos on a site that is up 99.9999999% of the time, I have no issue paying for a service that has changed my life in many positive ways. Now I do hate price gouging like everyone else, but it's inescapable from gas & groceries to all streaming platforms.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I subscribe too. I'm an expat in a SE asian country where the subscription cost is a bit lower so, I do have that going for me. (~$5.50)

My consumption of YouTube is primarily through the official app on my Xbox. I also have a Pihole but it doesn't work for YouTube.

This subscription lets me watch the creators I want to see, on the device I want, with the least amount of friction.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I have a family plan but it's not for any reason other than my children use it and I can afford to pay to reduce their ad exposure. We live in a swing state so they were previously bombarded with political advertising.

The way I see it, I swapped the Netflix account for a YouTube account because that's what the kids favor now. If they move on, I will drop it immediately. If the price goes up then I am very likely to drop it. It's already overpriced for what it is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just use Brave browser and you will not see any ads, anywhere, on any website... for free.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The problem is that the paid premium is NOT better than free with extensions. Piracy is a service problem, and the paid service is NOT better than the "pirated" one. Even if premium was completely free, if it didn't allow extensions I would still use the ad version with extensions.

Revanced android apps also exist, and I won't use them with premium accounts (no point) and they are the only way of having sponsorblock, return youtube dislike, manual HDR and many other small but very useful features.

I would gladly pay for the content if and when the youtube official apps and website had features similar to those extensions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Good post, I vehemently disagree in every way

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn’t really mind until the recent pay rise. It was ok value (for me) before. Now it’s getting expensive. Not sure if I’ll cancel or not yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I cancelled Disney+ after the last increase, if YouTube premium does the same, I'll have to reconsider, I can't justify paying over $20 to only get rid of ads.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I agree with this, though part of it is that I am still grandfathered into the $7.99/mo original Google Music launch promo price. It is worth it to me not to see ads to continue paying for it. The current monthly premium at $14/mo for new users is insanity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I also don't mind using ReVanced and getting the same features as YouTube Premium for free.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

If the enshittification works, it will be an ad service offering videos on the side (if you pay up).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This feels less like an unpopular opinion than an ad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your comment just made me $10, thanks for participating!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That's nice. They'll easily make that money back from the massive price hikes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I would be fine with it if it were a privacy-respecting platform that was subscription-based first and foremost, then had an ad-supported tier as well, but unfortunately it's owned by Google so they're collecting untold troves of data even from paid subscribers and that's the actual product for them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you are paying for premium, you are paying twice.

Once with money, a second time with your data.

I'd gladly pay for an option where they stopped tracking me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can literally change that in your settings.

But then YouTube doesn't know what you have watched or anything it's pretty bad for user experience

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

For an eclectic viewer like me I am the complete opposite of you; being tracked and remembered by YouTube would be miserable. I arrive at a fresh home page that shows only a search bar every time I go there. (There are no video thumbnails) I have to stop and think about what I want to watch. I click on a video after searching, reload the page to skip the ad, unmute and away I go. Any creator I want to remember I’ll take a screen shot and then copy and paste their channel name to notes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It made economic sense for us to get the YouTube Premium family plan. When we dropped several streaming services and also Spotify, it was a bit more expensive than Spotify's family plan, but YouTube without the ads was worth it, especially considering they have a huge library of movies that they are offering in high quality for streaming.

Honestly, I'm more satisfied than when I was paying for Spotify Family and Disney+ and Paramount+. And if I must see the eight billionth Marvel show of the year, which I generally don't, there's always the high seas.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There was a time where I would have been happy to pay for it too, back when the ads were less intrusive. However, the number of ads increased drastically when they started pushing premium, and it's only gotten worse - not to mention the fact that, even though they make more money, the content creators (employees) are paid less per view. I don't mind paying for a product or service. I do mind paying to make an engineered inconvenience from a mega corporation that has a de facto monopoly go away.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I miss Metacafe and Big-Boys/Break.com. You know, from the days when YouTube actually had competition.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I was under the impression premium views result in more revenue for the creators you watch compared to views with ads.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

They do but it's not that much more significant than overall ad revenue. Having a Patreon or a merch store will probably outperform 10 fold anything that YouTube pays from both ads and premium views combined.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

I already paid for a lifetime of free Google services with all the data they stole from me before I had any sense that something so massive and invasive could even exist.

Thanks to ReVanced and Freetube and some others, Google can effortlessly pay out their equitable share.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I only wish they’d kept the “premium light” option (which I paid for until they canceled it). I don’t need another music service or locked screen playback, so I wish I could still pay a bit less for not using those.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I also use YouTube music. I think their algorithm is good

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Would rather pay the creators directly instead of it going 80% to anyone in ceo position and maybe 5% to the creator.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Where are you getting this 5% number?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Pulled out of my ass as it was hypothetical.. Just that I rather support creators instead of orgs with ceo's salaries.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

At least with ads, 60% goes to the creator and 40% to YouTube. I had a video go viral because it was newsworthy, and a CDN (Storyful) offered to help with licensing and marketing, and their price was 40% of my 60%. I wasn't really expecting the video to go viral, so decided "why not."

I only got 36% of the money from the YouTube views, but Storyful delivered and got it on the news and a few documentaries and I ended up making thousands of dollars for a few minutes of video. 10/10 would do again, but then YouTube changed the rules and now you need like 1,000 subscribers for your video to even qualify for monetization :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That's neat. Good on you! I like the platform but to be flushed with ads and pay more ceo salary versus creators like yourself, I rather choose to support those I enjoy my entertainment from. Of course realistically A VERY difficult thing to do. I like the idea of Jaybird and Floatplane to an extend. It's just that if I was more settled with life, i probably could afford it finely but its not that high on my worthy things list.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Interesting !

load more comments
view more: next ›