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Trump and Vance face criminal charges over Springfield hoax (www.rawstory.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Stochastic terrorism needs to have more severe criminal penalties for career politicians specifically. Right-wing figureheads have been getting away with this shit for too long.

We're now penalizing the parents of school shooters, so if we find out that someone who threatens to bomb a school is a super fan of X person, then X person should face some sort of penalty if they continually put out deliberate lies about said school. We did a version of this with Alex Jones already, just follow through with that logic honestly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Why are politicians not accountable for spreading lies? Not even ridiculous ones like this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They’ve already ruined their reputations themselves, honestly keep it up🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And for the half of Americans that continue to support them without question after having done so, honestly. Half of the American flag should be drenched in sewage to reflect how they are leaving the reputation of the US within and outside of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think half of Americans support him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hang 'em both.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

"there's no room for political violence"

LOL /s

fuck both those ass holes

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump isn't ever going to actually go to jail. That would set a precedent for us to actually keep our political leaders accountable, and that ain't happening.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

there will be parades and celebration on his death though. hell never be forgotten, but not the way he wants.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If anything, they've done everything to excuse outright corruption in the US government. SuperPACs, bribes, it's all getting legitimized. You can't even hear reports criticizing civil asset forfeiture not only because the practice is so widespread, but now people are more concerned about even worse things. A massive and overcrowded private prison system being used as a system of low or non-existent labor akin to slavery? Last decade's news.

Please, tell me how the US was founded as a revolution from tyranny and corruption again. Was that the policy when manifest destiny trampled on native American lives and left them in enclosed casinos? The US has always been about colonizers and subjugation, and even to this day continues to support modern world colonizers who, lacking the absence of modern civilization, rationalize the natives as militants when they oppose and make sure to place them besides terrorists. It speaks volumes to the sad state of global affairs that they are still the better option in terms of global superpowers to ally with.

The US compares itself to and lets itself be shaped by the lowest common denominator. Anything better, too socialist - but nevermind the small group of oligarchies power is organized around who do get the socialist treatment anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Learning about USA history in high school radicalised me.

As you said, manifest destiny was just the same old colonialism they claimed to oppose, just with a religious excuse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

The US education system does teach US history and critical thinking, but applying it to itself is another thing entirely. The means are still there, so it's no coincidence that there has been a movement to shaft the US education system an promote things like homeschooling.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

@[email protected] Looks like Rawstory heard the complaints and modified the headline on you.

The new headline is "Trump and Vance face criminal charges over Springfield hoax"

If you could make this match, that would be great!

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it would be pretty hilarious if this was the thing that got Trump in jail. Aaaaaall the other stuff? Nah. but this Springfield hoax? Yeah we got to do something about that.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Al Capone got put away for Tax Evasion, so anything is possible I guess.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If only the IRS had the teeth now as it did then, we'd never heard about this trump fellow.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

We probably would have heard about him going to prison in the 80s.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tempted to remove as "Fox by Proxy" but here's an alternate source which confirms the story and raises an excellent point:

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/25/g-s1-24436/haitian-group-charges-trump-vance-springfield

“If it were anyone else other than Trump and Vance who had done what they’ve done — wreak havoc on Springfield, resulting in bomb threats, evacuated and closed government buildings and schools, threats to the mayor and his family — they would have been arrested by now,” Chandra said. “They are not above the law.”

Chandra said the U.S. Supreme Court's July ruling granting ex-presidents broad immunity from criminal prosecution does not apply in this case because Trump is currently a private citizen and Vance was not acting in his capacity as a senator when he amplified the rumors that members of Springfield’s 15,000-member Haitian community were eating people’s pets.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

"If it were anyone else ... they would have been arrested by now,” Chandra said. “They are not above the law.”

Those two sentences don't add up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

"They are not above the law" is the justification for calling for their arrest.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah. "They shouldn't be above the law." works better.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

They add up to "therefore they should be attested".

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago

As fucking if lmao

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