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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I support this for all the reasons. All the right ones. And all the wrong ones.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm like tonr between this like one side thinks who cares if men can do it women should have the right, but you get angry religious nutjobs. On the other side you get weirdos who will just be even bigger creeps.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 3 weeks ago (27 children)

We need to switch from our current American view that all nudity is sexual. If you see a someone naked doesn't automatically make it sexual!

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

YES
END THE HYPOCRISY
👏 FORCE
👏 MEN
👏 TO
👏 WEAR
👏 SHIRTS!

^^^apologies, i should have appended an '/s'^^^

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Heck nah, free the tiddy. I'm transitioning and I wanna be able to show off what I've grown when I'm able haha

Also just like, can we all stop making everything sexual and let peoples bodies exist. Instead of hiding everything and making ourselves feel ashamed of our bodies

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

Should be nationwide

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

But since its not a protected class I assume businesses can turn them away

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sex/gender is a protected class.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Most businesses will turn away anyone shirtless, especially where health code violations come into play.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Yeah I’ve gone topless in cities where it’s legal before and you just need to bring a shirt if you plan on eating

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

If they allow it for men they might have to allow it for everybody.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Also legal in Ontario, Canada. A woman was arrested for walking around topless in hot weather. She was finned by police but topless men in the area were not. Ontario courts eventually rulled this was discriminatory but the provincial government did not appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada so the ruling only applies in Ontario.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Take Oklahoma off your list because in Tulsa they will still arrest any woman who does this. Apparently they refuse to follow that law that was passed.

I know because the city made big fucking stink about it when Tulsa women started to go topless when it was found to be legal. So they passed and ordinance making it illegal within city limits at public spaces so practically everywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah despite there being a law against discrimination, the cops are obviously going to use their subjective view of things like lewd behaviour to charge topless women where they wouldn't men.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's literally the law Ontario courts rulled cannot apply to topless women as it is discrimination.

On July 19, 1991, a sweltering and humid day, Gwen Jacob, a University of Guelph student, was arrested after walking down a street in Guelph, Ontario while topless after removing her shirt when the temperature was 33 °C (91 °F) and was charged with indecency under Section 173(1)(a) of the Criminal Code

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. Shit, isn't it?

ACAB

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's legal where I live. Nobody does it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Where is that? I think women often don't walk around topless because men sexualize them or take photos, etc.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Could be anywhere, it's legal in a lot of the US but nobody partakes because it draws unwanted attention.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago

As a woman who’s done it: it’s mostly just awkward. I don’t go topless unless it’s an occasion warranting it or it’s way too damn hot to wear a shirt. The men don’t help for certain, but there’s just also the element of being the only shirtless woman around

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, it's kinda built in

[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Equal protection clause. Any law that imposes itself on women and not men should be unconstitutional.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Equal protection*

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Legal in Ohio as well for women to go topless. I'm not sure if there are any age restrictions or anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Idk of age restrictions but it’s not an explicit right here, so most municipalities have laws against it. Columbus doesn’t though so you can free the tits there

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

AFAIK anyone can go fully nude in most public spaces in Germany. It's actually kind of weirder to not allow it and carve out arbitrary exceptions if you think about it.

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[–] [email protected] 152 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Same goes for NY.

I know this because at the college I worked at, a city public safety officer walked up to a young man who was sunbathing on campus thinking it was a woman, and told him to put his shirt back on or be charged with indecency or something. The school was outraged and had a shirtless demonstration march around town.

Did a I mention it was an all girls school?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I found this map: https://gotopless.org/topless-laws The religion behind this site seems kind of strange.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ve used this site in the past but never noticed they were out of their damn minds

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a gallery, for research purposes.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The religion behind this site seems kind of strange.

Extraterrestrials Created All Life On Earth

Let's Build An Embassy To Welcome Them

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Thats a more plausible explanation than what the big religions offer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Just a different version of the same explanation

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Oh lol, it's the Raelians.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

None of which have beaches like the one in the photo.

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